Hi Tom,
In a message dated 2009.11.06 17:28 -0500, TomW wrote:
According to the OO documentation ("Working with Graphics"), any
picture inside a frame should have "To Frame" among its Anchor
options. In a document I wrote are ~30 pictures inside frames - but
only half of them have the "Anchor.. To Frame" option. After much
study, I'm still unable to see the difference between those that have
and those that do not have the option. ...
Open the properties of the picture and in the first tab, "type', near
the bottom, check what the left horizontal position value is.
"left horizontal position" is perhaps a little ambiguous: The Horizontal
Position attribute takes one of four position states
{"Left"|"Right"|"Center"|"From left"}, defined over one of eight domains
{ "Paragraph area" | "Paragraph text area"
"Left paragraph border" | "Right paragraph border"
"Left page border" | "Right page border"
"Entire page" | "Page text area" }.
Of those four position states, only "From left" takes a value
{negative|0|positive}. The other states {Left|Center|Right} are all
defined by the domain {Paragraph|Page} limits
{Area{All|Text}|Border{Left|Right}} - thus the numeric position value is
meaningless - and *none* of those states correlates with the "To Frame"
anchor. So your point, while incomplete, leads us close to the problem:
the anchor "To Frame" is incompatible with some Position attributes.
Now, why is that? To answer that question, we may need to answer the
"bonus question" that I asked in the original post:
since Writer believes that a picture with caption is lost without a
frame (and thus supplies one automatically), why would the picture
ever *not* be anchored to the frame?
Thanks to your contribution, I now have some thoughts on that question -
but I think it's best to continue them in reply to Andy's post, which
moves this on a little further. So we'll take that up in that post.
I have found ,in most cases, that if the value is 0 or negative
(outside the frame), the 'anchor to frame' option is missing. In
cases where it is zero or negative. and I still have the 'anchor to
frame' option, if I un-check the size options, 'relative' and/or
'ratio', this will remove the 'anchor to frame' option. I hope I
am clear on this.
Yes, perfectly clear on the mechanics - as long as we understand that
"the value" means "the value *From left*". However, of course it's not
so clear on the theory - the design model. [From your tone, I /think/
you would agree with that.] Again, I think it's best to take up /that/
question in the context of Andy's post.
Thanks for getting this started toward answers.
John
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