On 11/07/2009 03:55 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:
... "Border" is not an independent entity from "Area"; on the contrary, "Paragraph area" is bounded by the paragraph borders, and "Page area" is bounded by the page borders. because the selection set is not orthogonal, the model doesn't compute; it runs into problems.
It is always difficult to come up with short, often one word, labels for the complex concepts manipulated by software applications. Writer (and OOo in general) suffers from this difficulty in many places; this is one of them--to me at least.
The 'border' here is not really a border in the sense most people would get from seeing the word. Instead, here it refers to the space between the paragraph margins and the page margins. So it is an area, although in many cases it has zero width because the paragraph margins extend out to the page margins.
You can (sort of) see the layout in the diagram at the top right of the dialog window.
I think also, you may be expecting more structure in documents than Writer actually provides. The menus may suggest that a caption is something you somehow "add to" an image, but that is not the case. The image and the caption (and the frame around them) are completely separate entities at the document level. You can separate them by cut/paste and distribute them over the whole document, if you like.
Writer adds the frame and puts the components together because it is a common way of laying out captioned objects. It's not the only way to do it; it may not even be the best way. It may not fit your document layout, but you are free to rearrange the components however you like. I believe (but I haven't checked) that you can make your own fully-functional captions without using the Insert > Caption menu at all.
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