Tom Bell wrote:
On 04/05/2010 07:35 PM, jl snurr wrote:

Barbara Duprey wrote:

jl snurr wrote:

Daniel Lewis wrote:

jl snurr wrote:

Brian Barker wrote:

At 10:50 05/04/2010 -0500, Joseph Snurr wrote:

I have been trying to a long time to stop the automatic outline
formatting of my documents.  I'm using OOo v3.2.0 on Windows 7.
I've clicked the "on/off numbering" and it seems to only works
for that particular line where my cursor is positioned.
I've also gone into the "Tools/outline numbering" and put "none"
for everything and clicked ok.
I've gone into "Line numbering" and unchecked "Show Numbering"...
I've also gone into "Tools/Options/OO.o Writer/Table/Input in
tables/Number Recognition" and unchecked it.
I've tried everything I know to stop the automatic outlining and
it still does it.  Any ideas on what I can do now to stop this?

Full marks for trying, but you've missed the one place you do
need to make a change:
o  Go to Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options, and remove the
tick from "Apply numbering - symbol: *".

(At least, that's where it is on my version 3.1.1.)

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


Brian, I've tested about everything I know to do, and it is not
doing anything automatic yet...  Thanks for giving me that one
last place to look.  :)


      Perhaps there is another way to do things. Open the Styles and
Formatting window. If you want to number some paragraphs and not
number others, define two paragraph styles: one for each one. While
defining the paragraph for numbering using the Paragraph Style,
make sure to click the Outline and Numbering Tab. There you can
select the numbering style you want to use with this style. Then
define the numbering style you want to use.
      When you want to use numbering, double click the paragraph
with numbering. It will insert the numbering. To not use numbering
double click the paragraph without numbering. It will remove the
numbering. This is true even if in AutoCorrect Options, Apply
numbering - symbol is checked (ticked).
      In writing the User Guides for OOo, we switch back and forth
between numbered paragraphs and non-numbered paragraphs all of the
time. If you are not sure how to do this, you need to get the
Writer Guide. Or You might want to only download Chapter 6
"Introduction to Styles". It is in the "Applying list styles" section.

Dan

Thanks Dan.  I'll consider this excellent idea.  maybe play with it
to see if I like it.

Barbara? I didn't mean to miss you.  You have a very good idea
there, and I did do your last suggestion.

I had once attempted to make my own outline format, but I didn't
care for their ideas.  But thanks for the time and idea.  Others may
be able to use it successfully.

Thanks all for your time and ideas.

Joseph

Could you tell us a bit more about what made you give up on the
Options tab for defining your own custom numbering? I find the
management that Writer does in automatically numbering the list
entries extremely helpful, and I'd hate to see you miss out on it
unnecessarily. (Of course, you may not do the amount of rearranging,
inserting, deleting, and so on that I do -- in which case
hand-numbering everything may be tolerable.)

I like to pick and choose the method I best associate with.  I don't
care for a program forcing me to do this or that.  If I recall
correctly, it still, at times, wanted to do one thing while I wanted
another.  Like a cat, I like to know what to expect when I'm working.

The biggest reason for my thoughts is this:  I'm nearly 60 years old,
and have been ministering in the church as a preacher/teacher for
about 30 years.  I've always used one specific outline format for my
work.  I was taught in school that this format was appropriate:  I, A,
1, a, i.  I'm used to it, and when I tried using other formats, I
ended up getting distracted, hunting my place in my notes.

I know this may not be a valid thought for some, but I like to know
what's going to happen when I outline something, and hit enter.  I
don't want it going to another outline note.  I prefer doing it myself
if I want one...

However, I might try OO.o's outlines, IF they had one that was like
what I was taught in school.  :)

With all due respect
                                    Joseph


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Click on Styles and Formatting in the Format Menu (it is midway down),
or hit F11.
Go to Displays formatting styles for numbered and bulleted lists.
Right click and select New.
Select the Options index.
On the left select the first level and in the middle select the
numbering style.
Then select the second level and the numbering style for it.
Then third...etc.
On the Organizer Index, type in the name of the style and click OK at
the bottom.
Then when you type you can open the Styles and Formatting window and
leave it open as you type.
This will allow you to select the style you want as you type.
You just cannot have more than one number list.  I don't know if that is
per page or per document.
Good luck!

Tom

I have attached an OOo template with the requested outline numbering style. To use the style, you need to have the Styles and Formatting window open. The F11 key will open this window (for those with a Mac, use the Apple key with T). Click the Paragraph styles icon (left icon is a line of icons). In this list, look for two styles: "Text body" and "Text body numbered". If you want to use the outline, click "Text body numbered." This will begin the outline with an "I". Enter the first line of the outline. Using the Enter key, will take you to the next line of the outline with a II. If you wanted this line to be a "A" instead of an "I", use the Tab key. Remember that the Enter key keeps you one the same level of the outline while the Tab key after the Enter will take you one level deeper: I to A, A to 1, 1 to a, and a to i. Shift+Tab will take you one level higher: i. to a, a to 1, 1 to A, and A to I. Hopefully, it will not be stripped from the list.

Dan



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