On 07/22/2010 08:03 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:
> You are right - and thanks for filing the issue - but that last
> condition ("good quality mailing list software") may be the catch:
> Months ago, in discussion about another mailing list problem, Paul said
> that the list manager software is really beyond community control 

Unfortunately part of the game is going through the motions so that you
have a checklist of things to point to when escalating the problem
report.  I am hoping that over time, the project will become less
corporate and more functional.

Please at least add a comment to the issue and maybe a vote:

        http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113372
        http://www.openoffice.org/issues/showvotes.cgi?voteon=113372

Having comments helps especially if they help turn up fast or easy
solutions.

Removing the Message Disposition Notification headers is simple regex
against the message head (not body):
        
        /^Disposition-Notification-To:.*$/

Regards,
/Lars

PS. Offtopic:

> - but
> that IAC change is on the way, which should address many of these
> problems.  In the meantime, one might hope that courtesy would prevail.
>> The notification appears to be a holdover from MS Exchange / Outlook
>> combinations which cause large volumes of messages to be lost without
>> even an error message.
> 
> Interesting!  Could you provide a little more detail, or a link?

I take it you've never worked with people who have used either MS
Outlook or MS Exchange.  Mail loss goes with the product, even when
everyone is on the same server and using Approved clients.

You can test it yourself.  *Every* time I have bother to test, it loses
over 15%.  That holds true for 2000 as well as 2010.  Last test I ran,
the low end was just under 29% loss, I didn't measure the high end loss
because it was looking like way over 40% and I just threw my hands up in
frustration and did not finish collecting data.  Day to day most people
don't seem notice and choose instead to blame the other party for not
responding or not having sent the mail.  Others just work a follow-up
phone call into their work flow -- either way, mail via Exchange or
Outlook no longer saves work.

You'll get a song and dance from the )=(/&%ยค#"%&/( running the Exchange
server, who will at first deny a problem or pretend even in the face of
hard data that 'no one else' complains.  Then he'll usually go on about
spam filters or ionosphere and sunspots.  Then he'll go on about a
re-build or update.  Then he'll go on about purchasing another copy (why
should the second one work if the first one didn't).  Then he'll go on
about needing extra Training.  Then he'll go on about switching the
hardware to blades.  You get the point.

/Lars

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