The problem with the suggested solution is that we have a lot of spammers.
If we do it like treating subsequent posts from them as from subscriber,
trust me everyone will be frustrated. I as the moderator see at least 15
spam mails per day on average.

So I suggest we should let the existing mechanism be there as it is. However
if people feel , we can think about renaming of moderated tag to non-sub.
But the message approval mechanism from non subscribers should remain same

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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Barbara Duprey <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 8/25/2010 4:16 PM, Carlo Strata wrote:
>
>> Il 25/08/2010 17:43, Barbara Duprey ha scritto:
>>
>>> On 8/25/2010 8:52 AM, Carlo Strata wrote:
>>>
>>>> Il 24/08/2010 05:35, Gail Severin ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Where is the bar code for envelopes addresses in Word? I really need
>>>>> the
>>>>> bar codes option. If there is none on this program that I have, can an
>>>>> update be created adding that option? Thanks. Gail Severin
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Gail,
>>>>
>>>> many answer to you only in the mailing list so that you didn't receive
>>>> and read their useful answer, so subscribe this list for the future
>>>> and/or browse directly here:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html#general
>>>>
>>>> and here for your thread (this one)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=users&by=thread&from=2405760
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The main problem with an unsubscribed user trying to use the OOo archive
>>> is that it is not conversational. If a question is asked for clarifying
>>> a problem, so a better answer can be provided, the unsub would really
>>> have to copy the question into a new e-mail, add the response, and then
>>> send the message to the list (messing up threading). Also, this response
>>> will continue to need moderation, adding the delay time into the
>>> process. Using the list's thread command allows natural response, but
>>> still has the delay, and subject line changes break the thread. So far,
>>> the best technique I've seen is to use old.nabble.com (or Gmane, but
>>> that seems more complicated); the first reply will require the unsub to
>>> confirm the e-mail address is active, but thereafter their messages will
>>> be "injected" and not need any moderation. Still far from ideal,
>>> primarily because OOo has no control. I'm hoping that the Kenai
>>> implementation will solve this whole issue!
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Barbara,
>>
>> A first good step would be to change "[moderated]" to, e.g., "[non sub]"
>> or "[non subscriber]", and leave the "[moderated]" flag with his correct
>> mean also if unused at this moment. Isn't it?
>>
>> Carlo
>>
>
> The [moderated] tag *always* means the poster is not subscribed, and that's
> its only meaning, so that would not really add any information.  And it does
> nothing for the majority of the unsubs, who write directly to the list and
> don't go through the path where that tag is attached. What I think really
> should happen is that when an unsubscribed user posts, they should be given
> an option to receive any updates to their thread (like what happens when you
> file an issue), and their subsequent posts should be treated as if from a
> subscriber without their getting the full list e-mails -- which many find
> overwhelming. That would put the responsibility on them, and none of us
> would ever have to know whether they were actually subscribed or not.
>
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