Hi, Varun! Have you taken over from Paul? Is he still the owner, or are you?
What I meant is that *after* the post has been moderated and sent on to the list, the account should
be considered subscribed in some fashion that does not send all the messages from the list but
simply allows the posts to come through unmoderated. Not exactly no-mail, but the only posts they
should get are the ones in the threads they've posted to. In any case, in my experience spammers
change the accounts they send from very frequently.
I see no benefit in changing the tag text, it's pretty unambiguous and almost everybody is used to
it. Some may have filters set on it, though the Delivered-To header would still be there and is more
meaningful.
On 8/25/2010 9:23 PM, Varun Mittal wrote:
The problem with the suggested solution is that we have a lot of spammers.
If we do it like treating subsequent posts from them as from subscriber,
trust me everyone will be frustrated. I as the moderator see at least 15
spam mails per day on average.
So I suggest we should let the existing mechanism be there as it is. However
if people feel , we can think about renaming of moderated tag to non-sub.
But the message approval mechanism from non subscribers should remain same
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Barbara Duprey<[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/25/2010 4:16 PM, Carlo Strata wrote:
Il 25/08/2010 17:43, Barbara Duprey ha scritto:
On 8/25/2010 8:52 AM, Carlo Strata wrote:
Il 24/08/2010 05:35, Gail Severin ha scritto:
Where is the bar code for envelopes addresses in Word? I really need
the
bar codes option. If there is none on this program that I have, can an
update be created adding that option? Thanks. Gail Severin
[email protected]
Hi Gail,
many answer to you only in the mailing list so that you didn't receive
and read their useful answer, so subscribe this list for the future
and/or browse directly here:
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html#general
and here for your thread (this one)
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=users&by=thread&from=2405760
<snip>
The main problem with an unsubscribed user trying to use the OOo archive
is that it is not conversational. If a question is asked for clarifying
a problem, so a better answer can be provided, the unsub would really
have to copy the question into a new e-mail, add the response, and then
send the message to the list (messing up threading). Also, this response
will continue to need moderation, adding the delay time into the
process. Using the list's thread command allows natural response, but
still has the delay, and subject line changes break the thread. So far,
the best technique I've seen is to use old.nabble.com (or Gmane, but
that seems more complicated); the first reply will require the unsub to
confirm the e-mail address is active, but thereafter their messages will
be "injected" and not need any moderation. Still far from ideal,
primarily because OOo has no control. I'm hoping that the Kenai
implementation will solve this whole issue!
Hi Barbara,
A first good step would be to change "[moderated]" to, e.g., "[non sub]"
or "[non subscriber]", and leave the "[moderated]" flag with his correct
mean also if unused at this moment. Isn't it?
Carlo
The [moderated] tag *always* means the poster is not subscribed, and that's
its only meaning, so that would not really add any information. And it does
nothing for the majority of the unsubs, who write directly to the list and
don't go through the path where that tag is attached. What I think really
should happen is that when an unsubscribed user posts, they should be given
an option to receive any updates to their thread (like what happens when you
file an issue), and their subsequent posts should be treated as if from a
subscriber without their getting the full list e-mails -- which many find
overwhelming. That would put the responsibility on them, and none of us
would ever have to know whether they were actually subscribed or not.
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