On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:03:55 -0000
"Harold Fuchs" <[email protected]> dijo:
>>>> Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
>>>> anyone have any idea what to look for?
>> If I open a new text document Tools > Language still does not list
>> Spanish until I go into Tools > Options > Language Settings and
>> select Spanish just for the new document. This is a pain. I can't
>> believe this is by design. Whatever dictionaries are installed
>> should appear in Tools > Language for all documents all the time.
>Under Tools>Langauge there are three options:
>
>1. For all text. If you select this you get taken to the same place as
>if you had chosen Tools>Options>Language Settings>Languages and we get
>into the previous discussion about ticks and superscripted ABC's.
One issue that may be contributing to the problem is that when I go
into Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages under "Default
languages for documents" > "Western" English (with ABC tick) is always
selected as the default. I can change it to Spanish (with ABC tick),
but whenever I open a new text document English is always there.
However, at the top of the drop-down "[None]" is an option. Perhaps if
it would default to "[None]" I would be able to select a language other
than English from within the document instead of having to go to Tools>
Options > Language Settings > Languages. I wish I knew how to get it to
default to [None].
>2 & 3 The other two options, For Selection (greyed out if no text is
>selected) and For Paragraph work the same way:
>If you click More (for more languages) you get taken to the pane you
>get when you do Format>Character. This is because language is a
>property of Character (don't ask, I don't understand either). On this
>pane click the Font tab and, in the middle of the resulting panel
>you'll see Language. Here you now have the same drop down list as
>before and the discussion applies about ticks and superscripted ABC's.
>Choosing a language here affects the current paragraph or selection
>depending on which option you chose.
For 2 & 3 neither is grayed out, whether text is selected or not. But
all they offer me is English, "None, do not check spelling," and
"More..." The More... choice takes me to the Tools > Options > Language
Settings > Languages dialog box. I also have exactly the same options
when I select "For all text."
>> Moreover, I have no Portuguese dictionaries installed, yet
>> occasionally Tools > Language shows Portuguese as an option.
>
>But I'll bet there's no tick/superscripted ABC.
No, there is not for Portuguese, because I do not have a Portuguese
dictionary installed. That is what is weird. Occasionally (at random)
Portuguese will appear in Tools > Language > (under any of the three
options).
>>And sometimes Spanish
>> does appear as an option in Tools > Language, even without going into
>> Tools > Options > Language Settings.
>
>Perhaps this depends on a "recent usage" scheme remembered by
>Writer ?????
Interesting theory. The documentation is silent about such a "feature."
>> I think there is something messed up, but I don't know where to look.
>Also, at the *bottom* of the Writer window in what I think is called
>the Status Bar, are several boxes. Left to right on my system these are
>1. An indication of which page I'm in within the document.
>2. An indication of what I think is the current page style. Right
>clicking on this allows you to select a new page style e.g. Landscape.
>3. An indication of the current language. Clicking on this (left or
>right click) brings up a list of interesting options. Among these is
>one that lets you select the language for the current paragraph or
>selection :-) :-) . IMHO this is a much more convenient way of
>handling multi-lingual documents. 4-n. Other things irrelevant to this
>discussion.
Good point! I practically never look at the status bar, so I was
unaware that you could click on the language displayed there to select
a different one. However, it gives me the same limitations as Tools >
Language, although the only option is Paragraph; it does not offer
Selection or All Text.
>I think that part of the confusion here is that the list of languages
>is *always* the same. It's in alphabetical order regardless of which
>dictionaries you have installed. The "available" languages
>("available" in the sense that you have the dictionary installed and
>can therefore do spell checking) are only indicated by the
>ticks/superscripted ABCs. I suppose there's an argument for the
>"available" languages to be forced to the top of the list but ...
Yes, I observed that also. It does not bother me that the ABC-ticked
languages are still alphabetically ordered in the list. What bothers me
is that I have to go four layers deep to change the language, and even
then all I can change it for is the current document.
Tools > Language (or clicking on the status bar) should always show all
ABC-ticked languages for Selection, Paragraph, and All Text.
Someone else said that I should rename ~/.openoffice to get a new one,
in order to be sure it is not something in my configs. I plan to do
that, but can't afford to take risks at the moment because I have an
exam tomorrow. But that is on my list of things to try.
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