On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 07:22:00 +0100
Thomas Lange <[email protected]> dijo:

>
>Hi all,
>
>For the details about what language entries get listed can be found in
>the following spec
>http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.odt
>
>in the section named 'Dynamic Language List Generation for Context
>Menu'.
>
>>>>> Regardless of which I select, the language options change.
>>>>> English is always available, as are "None - Do not check
>>>>> spelling" and
>...
>>>>> Sometimes when I go into Tools > Language I get the option of
>>>>> English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes),
>>>>> never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is
>>>>> no consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary
>>>>> installed.
>...
>>>>> At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the
>>>>> Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes
>>>>> no difference. The only way I can create a new document with the
>>>>> Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have
>>>>> Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the
>>>>> menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text.
>...
>>>>> Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
>>>>> anyone have any idea what to look for?
>
>There is nothing messed up. From your description above it still looks
>like everything works as designed.
>
>For the details about what language entries get listed those can be
>found in the following spec
>http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.odt
>
>in the section named 'Dynamic Language List Generation for Context
>Menu'.
>
>The list of languages displayed is populated considereing various OOo
>user settings, the text at the cursor position (i.e. language guessing,
>which can even suggest languages that are not installed), the languages
>already used in the document, and for Windows the keyboard language as
>well. Please note that the shorter a text is the more likely it is for
>language guessing to fail an suggest seemingly arbitrary languages.
>
>Aside from that it is as has already been said: to create a document in
>a specific language either go to 'Tools>Options>Language
>Settings>Languages' or use the 'For all text' entry from
>Settings>'Tools>Languages'.

Thank you. Now I understand at least why Portuguese kept appearing in
the list under Tools > Language > For All Text, even though I have no
Portuguese dictionaries installed. Apparently it is "language
guessing," and it guesses regardless of whether you have a dictionary
installed for the language it is guessing. I just tried it and you can
even set the entire document to a language without ever installing a
dictionary for that language. Not sure what the purpose would be,
though.

However, I still can't believe it takes six mouse clicks and seven or
eight more in scrolling to set the language of a new document to
Spanish. That is, unless I set the default for new documents to
Spanish, and then it will take six mouse clicks and seven or eight more
in scrolling to set a new document to English. 

I suppose I am supposed to install a keyboard for every language I
write in, as Windows is designed to expect. But I use Linux, where the
compose key makes extra keyboards pretty much unnecessary. So without
installing a Spanish keyboard OOo won't pick up Spanish and display it
as an option in Tools > Language > For All Text.

I also tried experimenting with the language guessing. I opened a new
document in the default (English), then typed a couple sentences in
Spanish. Tools > Language > For All Text then offered me English,
Portuguese, Italian and Catalán, but no Spanish. I guess OOo isn't very
good at guessing.

I suppose I could macro all the mouse clicks, but it seems that the
user interface wasn't designed with ease of use in mind.

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