On 09/02/2011 05:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Larry Gusaas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2011-09-02 6:16 PM  NoOp wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if the OP (Rob Weir) will reply to my questions, or if he
>>> simply intends to be a 'hit&  run' poster (cross-poster) to this list...
>>> After all, posting such an annoucement on this list (and cross-posting
>>> [email protected]  &  [email protected])
>>> without sticking around to answer questions, explain, offer further
>>> details, is IMO pretty rude. Is this what can be expected from
>>> ooo-apache in the future?
>>
>> I wouldn't judge Apache by Rob Weir's actions. He is new to Apache and an
>> IBM employee. The long time Apache people seem to be much more relaxed and
>> easy going, at least from what I have seen since the Apache-ooo  started.
>>
> 
> Larry, if you wanted to be useful you might have mentioned to NoOpthat
> we have been discussing enabling Gmane for
> ooo-users.incubator.apache.org on the ooo-dev list, and that you
> yourself have volunteered to set that up in a few days.
> 
> And btw, I've been an Apache Committer since 1999.

However...

You post an annoucement on this list (over 5 hours ago) that this list
will be shutting down - not a trivial post. I post questions regarding
such about 2 hours later, and your only post since then is to chastise
Larry?

> 
> If you want more details on how the users list will work, I'd
> recommend you start a thread over there, since this openoffice.org
> list is soon going to disappear.  As one of the list moderators, I'd
> be happy to answer any questions you might have.
> 
> -Rob

Actually /you/ *need* to post information in *this* list so that the
users of this list aren't left in the dark. You can't just 'hit & run'
on this list and close it down without *first* giving the users of
*this* list the benefit of knowing how/what/why, etc. Oh, and also
updating the web pages that I pointed out.

By my count this list has over 29416 posts archived going back to 2002.
At least that is what I can see from the posts I can read via gmane.org.
You pop in annoucing:

> Please note that, as part of the overall migration to Apache, this
> list will be closed.  Based on feedback received, including from
> participants on this list, we've decided to create a users list at the
> Apache OpenOffice.org project to serve as a continuation of
> [email protected].
> 
> You are invited to subscribe to the new list by sending an email to:
> [email protected]
> 
> That Apache list is live now.  Although [email protected] is not
> going to disappear immediately, it will eventually be shut down.    So
> you might want to finish the threads you are engaged in here, but try
> to start new ones at [email protected].  We're talking
> weeks, not months, before the migration completes.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Rob

and don't respond to responses regarding your post (except to Larry's of
course). Again: "Is this what can be expected from
ooo-apache in the future?". Many users on this list may not even have a
clue as to what 'incubator.apache.org' is, who /you/ are, and why this
is all taking place.

The users on this list went through several months of trauma regarding
the transition from Sun to Oracle list changes (including bug
reporting). Now you show up with this?

Answer my question, explain the points I made regarding the web pages
and your new list, and stick around to answer questions regarding the
affect it will have on users on *this* list. Only then will you have
(IMO) any credibilty here.
...

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Will the last user on this list kindly please turn out the lights, lock
the door, and post a google map with directions to Apache/IBM?

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