I agree.  The network security option is one that we are exploring but
there is an issue with using this as the only solution.  So far we have
secured network folders set up for each department, as well as private
network space for each employee.  From my understanding, the problem is
setting up various folders for the different combinations of user
access.  Say user Bob, only wants 5 users to be able to see his
document, and only two of them to be able to edit it. Then lets say one
of these 5 users, lets say Mike, wants to do the same thing with the two
than can edit Bob's document, as well as three other users not able to
access Bob's documents.  The number of user combinations needing folders
would increase dramatically as the company gets as large as mine.  This
is where the dilemma comes in, and right now the network guys are being
resistant since this change would mean a lot more over head for them. 
The easiest route would be if we could do a combination of the network
security and using OpenOffice's security.  But this is a problem since
some users need to keep Microsoft Office due to software and file (due
to extensive macros) dependencies on it, and OpenOffice has he lovely
ability to bypass read-only security on the file level.  I also heard
that you can get around the OpenOffice password security by saving the
document into a microsoft format.  

Anywho, thank you for the help and any suggestions that you or anyone
else in the user group may have in this matter.  
Robert 

>>> ken green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/15/05 12:41 AM >>>
On 2005-09-14 10:07 AM, Robert Volke wrote:
> I need to be able to lock files at three different levels:  
> - protect file from being opened by the wrong person
> - protect files as read-only so that users can open a file if they
wish
> to view it, but may not edit it
> - protect file from being opened then protect it from being edited
> (essentially make it so that only some people can open the file as
> read-only, and the rest can't open it)

Why are you asking individual documents to do what basic network 
security and permissions is designed to do? You can accomplish 
everything you describe fairly simply on any NT-based network by
putting 
documents into appropriate network folders and setting permissions.

I don't know if you are on a Windows network, but I'm sure this can be

done in other OS network environments just as easily (and probably more

secure).

You could set up user groups with the type of permissions you describe

and give those users access to folders on the network. Is this not an 
option? Of course, I am assuming that you are talking about a network
in 
the first place.

Apologies if this isn't a good solution, or I've missed your point 
entirely. But to me, using *any* Office suite app (MS, OOo, or 
otherwise) for the specific security/password scenario you describe is

like taking the bicycle to go uphill when the train is there or you
have 
a car: you can certainly do it, but it's harder than it needs to be.

-- 
Ken Green


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