On Monday 21 Nov 2005 16:17, J. Magalhães Cruz wrote:
> Alan,
>
> I think that the numbering/outlining implementation of  OOo is
> unnecessarily complicated and rather unintuitive!
> Some months ago, I initiated a thread in this list about this same subject
> (follow the thread on
> http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgId=2047526; see
> below my original message). Unfortunately, most of the readers just read
> it; and a couple of users tried to convince me (without success) that it
> was justified to have a separation between numbering and paragraph
> formatting (stylewise or not). Even if the interfered with each other!!!
> :-|

I started to read the thread.  I can see where its going.  I will follow it 
some more in a minute.  I am not sure sure I agree with you, but I will 
follow the thread through

I think part of the problem is there there is something wrong with the 
implementation (see below), and the help files assume you already know what 
you are doing.  Just as an example of the unintuitive mess you can get into, 
I attach a little jpg file.

Just in case it gets filtered out from this mailing list let me explain what 
it shows.

It is an indented paragraph in which the first line consist of a definition, a 
tab and then the explanation of the definition.  This is formatted so that 
the first line's left margin is at 1cm and the subsequent lines are all 
indented to 6cm.

To that I have attempted to add numbering.  I want two digits, where the first 
digit comes from the previous heading - the second is sequentially numbered 
throughout the section.  So I added the style into the Tools, outline 
numbering.  Now look where it left me.

First, the margin markers in the ruler do not line up with the text.  Secondly 
the number seems to lined up with the first line paragraph margin - the help 
file tells me it should be lined up with the left margin of the page.

The first line has 1.2 "Agreement"<tab>Means the signature ....  - Some text 
which should be lined up with the second lines and beyond.  BUT it is 
impossible to make it so without adding another tab.  That is because the 
first line tab stops at where the margin ought to have been rather where it 
is now. 

Lastly, notice how this is numbered 1.2 and the line just above it is numbered 
1. Definitions.

Why that is still 1.2 is beyond me and not 1.1 is beyond me.


-- 
Alan Chandler
http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk
Open Source. It's the difference between trust and antitrust.

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