On Tuesday 21 March 2006 15:20, Chad Smith wrote:
> I assume this macro would automatically record the OOo version, the
> system's OS, and stuff like that, right?  (I didn't see that in the
> orginial suggestion - just wondering if that was the thinking.)

I was thinking only of the web interface for reporting bugs. But obviously the 
principle could be applied anywhere where a bug description is being 
collected. Any automatic collection of information is welcomed, provided it 
is reliable.

Andy.
>
> On 3/21/06, Henrik Sundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2006/3/21, Andy Pepperdine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 13:58, Ross Johnson wrote:
> > > > One thing is for sure though - providing a good problem description,
> > > > clear reproducible steps and a sample test case will usually get your
> > > > report confirmed by the QA people more quickly, and that means a
> > > > developer will see it sooner. Beyond that I can't say.
> >
> > I really like this idea. Hope it's doable.
> >
> > > The difficulty is getting a good problem description. In my experience,
> >
> > most
> >
> > > users of any product need a special mindset to give such a description,
> >
> > and
> >
> > > if you ask two users to describe the same bug, you'll get two very
> >
> > different
> >
> > > answers. In our case, we are expecting them to know how to describe
> >
> > something
> >
> > > remotely.
> > >
> > > If I was talking to someone about an issue, I would try to establish:
> > > 1. What did you do to create the error?
> > > 2. What happened when you did that?
> > > 3. What did you expect to happen?
> > > This last one is important because it can often cause the user to
> >
> > question
> >
> > > their own assumptions and realise the problem for themselves. Not
> >
> > always,
> >
> > > certainly, but it may reduce the noise.
> >
> > I think the last question is very important for other reasons as well.
> > It makes it much easier for the developer to understand what the user
> > focused on and it is very useful for regression tests.
> >
> > > So I wonder whether instead of a single box for a description, we
> > > should divide it into three questions as above. Or perhaps just prime
> > > the box
> >
> > with
> >
> > > three questions in it already. I've never seen this tried, so I have no
> >
> > idea
> >
> > > how it would be received.
> >
> > I would be very happy with such a system. Both as a user and a
> > developer (not OOo developer).
> >
> > > One trivial thing though would be to reverse the version list so the
> >
> > most
> >
> > > recent are at the top (at least for Writer you've got to scroll down to
> >
> > the
> >
> > > bottom to find the most recent version).
> >
> > Don't understand what you talk about here.
> >
> > /$
> >
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