Jallan wrote:
klaus schmirler wrote:
Jonathon Blake wrote:
Klaus wrote:
If it had a change option for every character, numbering, paragraph
and page style that is applied in a given place, possibly mentioning
the
Currently implemented in OOo.
Separated from the options of defining new ones? And, more
importantly, in one place, at one glance, without checking in five
different panes, if you are talking about whatever the Stylist is
called now?
What I am going for is some redundancy (seeing what's already there)
and a lesser chance to miss anything. I may be a stupid user, but I
know I'm not alone, and I like to see my mistakes.
If you want to see what is "already there" at any point, and the normal
screen view doesn't provide sufficient information, right click, and the
context menu provides you with the means to call up dialog boxes which
allow you to directly view (and change) page properties, paragraph
properties, and character properties applied to the page object,
paragraph object, and text range object in effect at your current
character position.
If you want to see current style values, then look at the style
definitions, yes in five different panes. But really now, you aren't
going to be so inanely stupid as to look for margin settings in
character styles or bulleting styles, are you? You are actually only
going to be concerned with only of these at any one time.
Do you really care about "what's already there"? Then learn how to use
the tools in OOo Writer and most other popular word processing
applications and publishing applications that do show you exactly
"what's already there", rather than asking for a viewing mode that
obscures "what's already there" by showing formatting code tokens that
aren't there, suggesting for example, that a particular formatting
attribute was applied pages back where the code is shown, when in fact
the formatting is independently applied again and again in every paragraph.
Improvements to the interface should better show what is already there,
not fake what possibly might be there if OOo Writer handled text
formatting in a very different fashion.
Jallan
This is what I am requesting. A viewer or way of indicating that
there are changes, either directly or by styles within the text of the
documents similar to View > non-printing characters with a status bar
that shows the formatting. No mouse clicks, not scrolling to a
different part of the document. Something that shows me where in a
document the formatting changes.
You would rather those that want an easy to use interface for
formatting just go away but that isn't the idea of Open Source
software. Many people that use the "most other popular word
processing applications and publishing applications" do not have a
choice as many of my co-workers when our employer changed from WP to
MS Office. It was the only choice. Now many have gone back to WP
because they now have a choice. Or Latex. The only ones that are
looking at OOo are those that are only familiar with MS Office. And
that is because OOo works better for them. Others have gone to LaTeX.
There are pointers at every location where the properties are changed.
These are not tokens in the WP sense but formatting definitions.
These can be read by a dialog box that could display all the
formatting at that location and what controls it. As said by someone
else, the formatting is nested. Direct formatting is the most
underlying formatting and this sometimes can prevent styles from
working properly. Especially on imported documents.
Paragraph and character styles can both control the font. Direct
formatting can also control the font. How do I quickly see where all
these changes take place. In reveal codes I just look at the RC box
at the bottom or top of the screen. I can see the "tokens" with the
text. There is no way to visualize a style change done to a "space"
within a document. I know a change has taken place but I don't know
where. This is obvious with RC's.
How can this happen? Simple, someone edits a document and deletes a
line, one character at a time but leaves one blank space. I don't
know how many times I have gone to insert some text only to insert it
within the wrong style and end up with the wrong format because I
don't know where the style ends. Or worse, I cannot paste it within
the style.
I would use WP if there was a native Linux version. But I am trying
to may OOo appeal to the WP users out there and make it better for me
as well.
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