On Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:05 AM [GMT+1=CET], Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Replies inserted.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Okay mister EXPERT prove that what I wrote is not factual or
>> accurate!  People like you usually check out hazards before they
>> become victims, what is your excuse?
> 
> 1.  Your preposterous claim that:
> 
>>> If you have a computer and connect to the outside world you just
> gave up your privacy with regard to what you do while connected
> to the outside world. <<
> 
> Now I've spent a lot of time on the internet and this is the first
> I've heard of that rule.  Who made it?  M$?  Or one of the other
> corporations that want to own the net?  Or maybe a cabal of all the
> corporations?

 The fact that you haven't heard of this before simply indicates that you don't 
read newpapers, journals, periodicals, or books and that you don't watch 
television or listen to the radio or go to the cinema. It is basically 
impossible to live in the late 20th / early 21st centuries without coming into 
contact with the fact that the internet and the web (which, by the way, are not 
the same) compromise privacy to a very great extent.

> 
> Maybe it was the CIA?
> 
> "People like" me?  Why am I bothering to answer someone who thinks
> ranting is reasoning?
> 
> 2.  The extremely extravagant claim that:
> 
>>> Every thing you do on your computer
> through any outside connection is recorded and is basically
> publically accessable to any one. <<
> 
> Do the banks know that?  Do the corporate executives know it?

Yes !!! The banks know it. Corporate executives know it. 14 year old children 
know it. And many of them can exploit it.

> 
> So you know, or are able to discover, everything I've ever done on the
> internet?
> 
> 3.  The sweeping claim:
> 
>>> Having the header information
> of an e-mail is no big deal. <<
> 
> I wouldn't raise the issue if there was nothing in the public
> information that I don't want publicised.
> 
> My email provider is looking into it.

If your e-mail provider intends to run a standard e-mail system then there is 
nothing it can do about it. That's the way the internet e-mail system is 
designed and has been since day one. Go and read the RFCs

> 
> It would serve OpenOffice right if it found itself on the receiving
> end of litigation for breach of privacy, unauthorised publication and
> non-disclosure of terms.  And any other available cause of action.
> 
> 4.  This weird statement:
> 
>>> If you do not want people to know
> who you are or what you are doing or where you are going with
> your computer don't connect to the outside world. <<
> 
> Now you're going to tell me that you know who I am, what I'm doing and
> where I'm going.
> 
> And you've got the same information at your fingertips for everyone
> else who has ever been so foolish as to "connect to the outside
> world"? 
> 
>> Just for your benefit I will post the header from the e-mail that
>> you sent your latest reply.  you can find it at the bottom of
>> this post.  Any time you send any communication to any one all
>> the information about where that file was is in the e-mail
>> header.  Every computer that was used to send that e-mail to the
>> destination has the information.  < snip >
> 
> What on earth does that have to do with OpenOffice
> (a) publishing that stuff on the web and
> (b) neglecting to warn anyone beforehand that it intended taking that
> extremely unusual, unnecessary and inconsiderate action?
> 
> I'm not complaining about recipients of my emails knowing whatever
> they can find out from my emails.
> 
> I'm complaining about one of them (supposedly a community
> organisation) telling the whole world.
> 
>> I know a lot more about this sort of thing than you think I do.
>> The government where you and I live has the ability to monitor
>> every thing you and I do and they use it.
> 
> Yes.  Well, paranoia's all that keeps me going as well.
> 
> To make the point again.  I'm not complaining about the government
> knowing anything.  I'm not complaining about recipients of my emails
> knowing anything.  I'm not complaining about OpenOffice knowing
> anything. 
> 
> I'm pointing out (that's all) that OpenOffice, without a word of
> warning, is publishing that information on the web and doing so
> unnecessarily and for the possible benefit only of those who would
> misuse the information.
> 
> It's interesting to me (and that's all) that anyone can be so
> benighted as to believe that is an appropriate way for a community
> organisation to behave.

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