Harold Fuchs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:22 PM [GMT+1=CET], Guy Voets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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No CC anywhere, and all say Send by OOo
maybe the difference is 2x the same answer to address?

I can *always* CC to the OP, but that gets tiring in the end.
Any suggestions?
We have had this conversation in this list several times over the last few months. The last time was only about 10 days ago so I'm surprised to see it cropping up again.

The way this list works allows non-subscribed people to send e-mails to the list. The *only* way to tell if an OP is subscribed or not is by examining the e-mail headers, either by software (e.g Thunderbird filter) or by eye/brain.

The OP is *not* subscribed if and only if the header "Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected]" exists. If you reply to a message from an unsubscribed OP and do not explicitly include his/her e-mail address in the To: or Cc: list of your reply then the OP will *not* see the fruits of your labour. The whole point about not subscribing is that you don't get the 100's of irrelevant (to you) messages per day that the list can generate.

Note that these headers seem *sometimes* ? to be removed if you follow the list via Gmane. I think this is related to the difference(s) between the Mail and News protocols (SMTP vs NNTP). I am not sure exactly what happens if you reply via Gmane: do additional e-mail addresses get honoured? In other words, would an unsubscribed OP see a reply sent via Gmane even if his/her address were explicitly included? Always?

Harold Fuchs
London, England

Hi Harold, I agree this is becoming almost an FAQ for replies.

I use gmane and read it with Thunderbird. I have the "all headers" extension installed and can click an icon on my toolbar which allows me to see the "moderator" delivery. If I see that, then I try to remember to CC the OP. Of course if the "moderated" is included in the subject line this is easier.

I believe that if the OP were to check via gmane they would see replies, because to post through gmane you have to send a "confirmation" post which is the equivalent of subscribing. I noticed that on one occasion I had a direct response from a poster and sent a CC to the list, upon which I got an "unsubscribed poster" response from the list manager.

Regards

Russell

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