2006/12/12, Dave Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Just to add a little to Dan's previous reply. On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 05:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i am not a subscriber to this list. CC Thanks for that. This is a busy list and this makes it a bit easier to identify non-subscribed users. > thank you at least for your reply. Your welcome. We try to help where we can. > you are of course right that my previous email was out of frustration anger Yep! Been there, done that ;-) > and genral dissapointment with open office org. I think maybe some of your disappointment might have stemmed from preconceived ideas you had about OOo. If I may, I would like to reply to your complaints, in the hope that they will alleviate some of the disappointment you have expressed. > my first complaint was that i had too many clicks to reach the finnal doan > load , unpack files and reg, before i could open up and try what open office > was like. The number of clicks is a subjective issue. What may be a lot to one person, might be very little to someone else. OOo is a very large and complex package and (IMNSHO) the installation process compares favourably to other software with similar functionality. BTW registration is optional. It does nothing, other than provide the community with a very rough guide as to how many people/organisations are using OOo. > secondly when opening my exel files i continualy received a warning that > marcos were unsafe, and to turn them off before i could open this file. this > did not happen before! As Dan has already stated, this is turned on by default to assist the unwary user against malicious macros. This warning can easily be configured to your own personal preference or turned off completely, through the program options. > when sending email the receiver could not open them as they were ODF files, > as these files were sent clean direct from ' open office' and not from > microsoft offic. Understand that OOo is not a Microsoft Office clone. By default OOo uses the standard (ISO/IEC 26300:2006) Open Document Format, which MS Office does not currently have the ability to use. However, OOo can both open and save in MS Office formats with a high degree of compatibility. OOo can also be configured to save in MS Office formats by default, through the program options. > now can you see were my frustration anger is coming from. Frustration, yes, because expected OOo to be identical to MS Office. Anger, no, because financially it cost you nothing (unless you pay per Mb for downloads) and it did not damage your computer. > for i was told that open office was as good as microsoft As good, arguably true, but different enough to require some small understanding of the differences. > and ready to use. Millions of people and a large number of businesses (me and mine included) use OOo for serious work every day. > then when i have had enough i find i cannot uninstall and when idid try > microsoft method it still left files behind Can you please tell us what _type_ of files you _think_ it left behind? Were these data files you created with OOo, or were they files that formed part of the OOo program itself? > and maybe some i dont know about. I seriously doubt that. Over several years I have installed and uninstalled several versions of OOo on hundreds of computers and have never found this to be an issue. On this point, I may be wrong, but I have a strong suspicion that you are referring to the Windows file associations that you actively selected when you installed OOo. If this is the case, I would agree with you that OOo's uninstall procedure should be changed, to offer the option to restore these associations to their original state. However, advice about how to manually restore these associations can be found here: http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s04.html#FILE-ASSOCIATIONS > it would be better if you had supplied a clean uninstall method and then > maybe i would not be so angry with this product this product. While I don't fully understand your "anger", I would agree that there are some aspects of OOo's uninstall functionality that could and possibly will be improved. > 'thanks for nothing' is a sarcastic remark but i feel justified in making > it. Please understand that OOo is an ongoing community project not a company product, which is developed and supported by volunteers, with the assistance of some corporations (mainly Sun Microsystems) and has limited development resources available to it. No it is not and does not claim to be perfect, but in the few short years of it's existence (see: http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#history ) it has made and will continue to make considerable progress and improvements. I am not sure that sarcastic remarks are really "justified", if you consider the things I have outlined above. I feel that if you had taken a little more time to look through some of the information provided in the program's help function and/or some of the basic documentation on the website, or even posting a question in this forum, you could have saved yourself some stress. Whether or not you continue to be frustrated and/or angry about OOO, please post back to this list with details of the files you believe have been left behind on your computer and we will do what we can to assist you in resolving this issue. Regards Dave
Hear! Hear! -- Guy using english OOo 2.0.4 on a iMac Intel DualCore Tiger and dutch OOo 2.1 RC 1 on a G4 PPC Powerbook Tiger -- please reply only to [email protected] -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches
