On Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:18 AM [GMT+1=CET],
James Mckenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
Note 1 : So how do I know if someone is not subscribed ?
That is easy : there is a field in every email on this list called
"Delivered-to". [trimming applied]
For folks using Thunderbird mail, the delivered to: lines usually do
not show up. This means reading the entire header. If you are in
doubt that someone is subscribed,
CC them. They will get two copies of your message and should ask why
that happened. Also, it is NOT necessary to CC folks if that are
sending through the GMANE news<-> mail interface nor through Google
Groups. If you look at the headers of a message from the former you
will see SEA.GMANE.ORG in the header. I don't know how
to identify Google Groups messages.
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Sorry but part of this is incomplete and part of it is wrong.
1. There is *always* at least one "Delivered -To:" header. This one:
"Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected]". The poster is
*un*subscribed if and only if this one appears as well: "Delivered-To:
moderator for [email protected]".
2. Using Thunderbird it is easily possible to set up a filter on that second
header which, for example, colours the item red in the inbox if it is
present, by assigning it to one of the in-built categories. Thus Thunderbird
users have a trivial method of determining if the message is from an
unsubscribed poster. I know that you can't filter on this header in Outlook
Express. I don't know about other mail readers.
3. I use Outlook Express 6 (OE). The following comments apply to it; I can't
speak for other news readers. When I use OE to follow this list in the Gmane
news group then:
a) If I do Reply Group to a message from an unsubscribed poster then, even
if I explicitly include the poster's e-mail address in the To: or Cc: list,
the poster does *not* see my reply.
b) If I do Reply (which is different) to that same message then the
unsubscribed poster sees my reply if and only if I explicitly include
his/her e-mail address in the To: or Cc: list.
I do not know if these comments apply to the Google Groups as I have never
tried them for this list.
I do not know how and when the word "[moderated]" is put into the subject
line of some messages. Unfortunately, the presence/absence of this word is
*not* a reliable guide to the status of the poster. It would be a real
service if it could be made reliable. Mr/Ms Moderator, can you hear me ???
Harold Fuchs
London, England
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