On 02/25/2007 04:12 PM, Russell Butler wrote: > NoOp wrote: >> On 02/25/2007 10:31 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: >> >>> As someone else said, you can post to this list without being >>> registered. Most of us try to include unregistered posters' e-mail >>> addresses in our replies, so they see them, but sometimes we forget and >>> one or two are just plain bolshie and won't reply except to the list. >>> >> >> How does one go about knowing if the poster is unregistered or not? I >> use the gmane news server, which of course requires a subscribe >> verification before posting (not reading), and wouldn't know an >> unregistered poster from adam. Even looking at the headers of >> "unregistered" posts that are tagged & responded to by CPHennessy, I >> can't seem to see anything obvious in the headers that show the poster >> is unregistered. > Hi, that's one I can help with > > I see you are using Thunderbird. Install the "View Headers Toggle > Button" extension, and if you like, the "header scroll extension." > > Then you can look in the headers for "Delivered-to: Moderator" > > That indicates a non-subscribed poster. > > HTH > > Russell
Well actually I'm using a prereleased version of Seamonkey: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 Thanks for the header info... I see it now: Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected] Got it & thanks again. ============================================== Now I guess the next questions would be (not being sarcastic or trying to be "bolshie" & not directed at you, but the list in general): Why would I care or even bother to look at each msg header to see if the poster was subcribed or not? To be honest, if I see a post that I *think* I can assist with then I concentrate on the problem at hand and attempt to post a reply that is helpful and relevent to the OOo question. o The moderator allowed the msg to be posted with no indication (other than header information) from an unsubscribed poster. Perhaps the moderator could also include in the subject line: [Unsubscribed]. I do see [moderated] in some subject lines, but not all with the "Delivered-To: moderator" header. o Regardless the msg's show: Reply-To: [email protected] for each and every msg. Are subscribers to this list (be it via email or gmane) expected, even as a common courtesy, to also reply to the original unsubscribed poster directly? The next step would be to telephone those that also include their phone numbers in their post and ask to be called. o Responding to an unsubscribed email address is just plain silly (IMO) by anyone other than a "moderator". What if the email address is forged? Easily done by someone, and the post could be a simple "will OOo work with Vista?" question. Harold or someone else attempting to be "helpful & non-"bolshie" responds directly & the email addressee thinks: what the heck? who is this? and immediately drops Harold's (as an example) email address & IP address into a spam blocklist? Why would common subscriber/user wish to provide a direct response & therefore their email address & IP information to a potential email forgery, spammer, or phisher? Yes I realise that that information is available for anyone that posts here, and that the lists are public. However, how about the ocassional "lurker" that reads the list and decides to respond directly? Perhaps a better suggestion would be to have the moderator(s) respond to the unsub's email with something along the line that gmane does in their email to anyone making their first post: > You have sent a message to be posted on the > gmane.comp.openoffice.questions. > > Before the message is posted on the newsgroup, you have > to confirm that you exist. Just reply to this message, and > the message will be posted. > > > You have to respond within one week. And not allow them to post otherwise. That would be an excellent opportunity (IMNSHO) of also adding something along the lines of: <example> Please be aware that the OpenOffice list is not a helpdesk and is instead comprised of OpenOffice users just like yourself. By subscribing to this this email list you are agreeing to receive emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you'd prefer not to receive these emails you can also... (news/forums etc). If you do not respond to this message within one week you will receive no further messages from this list. Helpful links that may relate to your question/post: http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ http://download.openoffice.org/index.html http://download.openoffice.org/2.1.0/instructions.html http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs.html http://support.openoffice.org/index.html http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html If english is not your native language you can also find assistance at xyz. OOo welcomes you to our community. You'll find that folks on the list are generally helpful and encourage all *OOo related questions/comments/suggestions*. Once you are more familiar with OOo, you are also encouraged to interact by posting a suggestion/comment to other user's questions/problems. Thank you for subscribing to OOo xyz Unsubcribe information can be found here: xyz url </example> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
