On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:03:22 -0800
NoOp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo:

> On 03/04/2007 10:31 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > The bug report I filed in Ubuntu has no comment or notice that it has
> > been assigned to anyone. But I guess it doesn't matter if the problem
> > has been resolved for Feisty. Let us all keep our fingers crossed that
> > they don't muck it up by the time Feisty final is released.

> Thanks for that. I think that it *does matter* as the problem still
> needs to be resolved by Ubuntu for the earlier versions of amd64 (Edgy),
> and there are thousands of installs out there that will still be
> affected. Also, in that the April release of Feisty will be *beta*, it
> is unlikely that all of those Edgy users will immediately jump to Feisty.

When mru of OpenOffice.org closed the bug report I filed, at first I
was very annoyed. But after I determined that the problem belonged to
Ubuntu, not OOo, I became somewhat mollified. Still, OpenOffice.org's
answer to such problems is always to install a version from
openoffice.org and install it, instead of the version made available in
the distro's repositories. That advice still annoys, because OOo does
not make a version that will install on 64-bit Debian Linux. It would
be nice if OOo would at least acknowledge the bug and if there was a
way to pass it back and forth between OOo and Ubuntu for discussion and
resolution. Instead, each side points the finger at the other, shrugs,
and says "not my problem."

At the same time I have to acknowledge that resources are always slim
and that this bug affected only a handful of Edgy amd64 users. Better
for both OOo and Ubuntu to spend their resources on more pressing
issues of greater benefit to the majority.

> I'm actually downloading the Herd 5 Alternate CD image now for testing.
> I plan to install it on my oldest (PII 300Mhz) test machine - if it
> works there I'll be happy. Never was impressed w/Edgy (ix86), that's why
> I stuck with Dapper. So it will be interesting to see what Feisty does.

I'm not overly impressed with Edgy either. In fact, I had determined
that I was not going to upgrade to Edgy at all. But Dapper screwed me
one day. I could not log in. I googled all over and determined that
there is a bug on Unix/Linux with the login procedure. I tried every
fix that I found online, but nothing worked. I was locked out of my
main installation where I had hundreds of hours of configurations and
settings. After six or seven hours trying to fix the problem I finally
determined that I had two choices: Wipe the hard disk and reinstall
(luckily I had current backups of ~/), or upgrade to Edgy and hope that
the upgrade would restore my login. I decided the latter was the least
painful alternative. The upgrade did restore my login, so it was worth
it to avoid a complete reinstall. But I have been stuck with Edgy ever
since and I really wish I could go back to Dapper.

The live/install CD of Feisty Herd 5 was pretty impressive. As for the
April release, Ubuntu says April 19 will be the final and March 22 will
be the beta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule I also note
that we are already past the date for new default applications, so OOo
2.2 will not be in Feisty, at least not at first. But I don't
personally care about that. I don't see anything in the list of
improvements for OOo 2.2 that excite me. If OOo 2.2 would finally use
OpenType fonts, I might get excited. But that seems to be still set for
some day in the distant future. 

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