Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"....

If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate....
but there are a lot of voices on this mail-list against OOXML, and Microsoft ad there products in common.. the reasons ??

a big hate to Microsoft, and Windows, an IE, and Ballmer, and Gates, that the OS is costing money, the Office-suite is costing money, /(as an example, Adobes products cost a whole lot of money to, but I don´t hear any comment about that fact)/ and..... etc, etc....

I asume that all of these voices never had there fingers on a machine with Windows or MS-DOS, that they never wrote a letter in the BAD Microsoft Word, or made a spreadsheet in Excel.. or maybe they have done this... ;-)

I´m on Win XP, running OO.o, MS Office XP, I have used MS Office since -93. I think it´s a good suite (for my needs) AND so are OO.o. I´m looking at Ubuntu, but so far it´s only looks I giving that OS...

If Linux is so much better than Windows, why isn´t everybody switching?
If OO.o is so much better than MS Office suite, why isn´t everybody switshing??

I mean, zero bucks, to a lot of bucks for MS products..

So it can´t be the price.. so what is it then ???


I thing the answer is marketing, marketing and marketing....

Most common citizens on the planet, plain people, runs a machine with a version of Windows, legal or not... they run perhaps, MS Works, any MS Office-suite, legal or not.

If the goal is to get many users that is running OO.o, there must be a massive marketing, ads and so on. Lift up the good stuff about OO.o, not that it is ISO-certified etc, and ALL that other techical-mumbojumbo.. it´s only scares the regular user, ´cause there are a lot of users out there with just a little bit of a knowledge about computers, trying to learn more about to handle a computer, and burping up techical crap...
Nah, they don´t get impressed... they don´t give a s**t about that fact..

Why you should use OpenOffice.org ??? Try to find som many answers to that question to the person you trying to convince that OO.o is a good substitute to Microsofts product. And please, do it without the "tinfoilhat"-look in your face... :-D And don´t forget... if anyone has paid for his/hers Windows and MS Office... why should they switch?? ´Cause it´s only suckers that run MS-products?? Let them run there paid-for products, but point out the good stuff about OO.o.

Trying to getting in to the business-world is harder... because there are so many other systems "built on" products from Microsoft. At least for "larger" business. It should be easier - perhaps - to reach owners in small business etc.


There is a lot of preassure on the development-team so they are doing a superb version 3.0, making more people discovering OpenOffice.org.

But, I´m pretty sure, to get more users on OO.o, there has to be more marketing-activities.... Metro-ads etc.


Best regards

// Per



Joseph skrev:


No....   first graders maybe.   <GRIN>



Christina Godinez wrote:
This is a david versus goliath.. Microsoft has the money to corrupt those countries to make it an iso standard. What type of common sense that these country's government has? You can ask any 5 year which one do they prefer, one that is free and or one that cost money? Are the government of these countries "smarter than a 5th grader?"
James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Joseph wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Joseph wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Fred A. Miller wrote:
Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval

Mary Jo Foley: Microsoft is now confirming that OOXML won the vote for ISO standards approval. Reports indicate that the OOXML won 75 percent of the vote after being soundly defeated last fall.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1304&tag=nl.e589

That's if you can claim they "won" after all the cheating etc., that went on. Apparently there are at least a couple of protests in the works.


So what does this mean, if I may ask?

In what respect? As things stand, it will become an ISO "standard". However, unlike most other ISO standards, there was blatant cheating, such as ballot stuffing, committees ignoring majority votes, "rules" made up on the fly, bought votes etc., to the point there's a real stink being raise, to the point in at least two countries, the committees are filing protests. It's quite plain to see that in this case, ISO approval was bought, which means that all ISO standards must now be suspect, as you don't know if someone paid for them. However, what happens if enough votes are reversed to kill this?

The whole point of this, was so that Microsoft could claim "ISO standard", so that government etc., are more likely to buy their new office versions, in order to force lock in.


Oh I get it. ISO.... Ignorant Slob Orchestrated???


Actually, it's "I sold out".



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