On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:23:39 -0400
James Knott wrote:

> Michael Adams wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:08:47 -0400
> > Fred A. Miller wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> James Knott wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>     
> >>>>> The whole point of this, was so that Microsoft could claim "ISO 
> >>>>> standard", so that government etc., are more likely to buy their
> >>>>>           
> >>> new >> office versions, in order to force lock in.
> >>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> Oh I get it.  ISO....    Ignorant Slob Orchestrated???
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>> Actually, it's "I sold out".
> >>>       
> >> Pretty close, I think.
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > I hate to be the voice of reason (I don't think i'm particularly
> > good at it ;) but the countries that do the voting each have their
> > own processes to follow. The level of corruption in each countries
> > system is what has been exploited here. The ISO system itself has
> > IIUC only been exploited insofar as a Fast Track Process was totally
> > inapropriate for this DIS.
> >
> >   
> There were also some problems with the chairman of the BRM ignoring
> the rules and making up his own.  Also, ISO should be blocking any
> vote, where there's influence of corruption.  Look at how MS stacked
> so many committees.  How can ISO accept that as valid?
> 

The BRM chair did propose some unothodox methods of getting a result
from the meeting. But the BRM committee went with the chair request to
vote via paper and that request was made of member nation reps. The
opportunity to stop it was at the committee level, not ours.

If ISO arbitrarily blocked votes from countries it would not get the
support from countries it needs to remain truly international. It is
murky waters, and often results in dulled teeth, like the UN processes.
Sometimes this makes it look innefective. Processes can be honed but
this murkiness can never truly be expunged.

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416

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