Barbara

First of all, I appreciate your help and your intelligent comments. I am
happy to continue this conversation with you but it will have to be one
on one after tonight, as I will be unsubcribing from this list forthwith.

Second: Here is my main beef with MS Office: when I open a program such
as Word (even in 2000) it loads impossibly slowly. It is also clear that
this is not a simple text editor which is what it should be. Every key
stroke results in all kinds of shenanigans and I have no idea of what is
going on.

Also, Word pulls all sorts of crap with formatting which I can't control,
inserting tabs, indents, caps where I don't put them and don't want them.
It's a total pain in the butt.

You mentioned something about security. How can a text editor be
insecure, unless it has all sorts of garbage added in which I don't know
about and don't want?

As I said before, if I could replace it with something lean and mean,
which would just get the job done, I would in a heartbeat. Ooo doesn't
seem to me to be quite there yet.

By the way, are you a developer?

Thanks and best wishes, Sandy

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:47:41 -0500 Barbara Duprey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >From my limited experience, the impression I have is that ooo 
> developers
> > seem to arbitrarily implement new features which are inferior to 
> the
> > corresponding features in standard use. A good example is the tree 
> setup
> > for the custom installer. The approach I would like to see would 
> be to
> > start with the standard features of MS office and then explore 
> what
> > improvements can be made. IMPROVEMENTS: not arbitrary changes. 
> Users have
> > plenty of complaints about ms products. The ooo developers should
> > identify these and go trom that point.
> >
> > Sandy
> I think the installer has not gotten a lot of attention, 
> particularly 
> the custom installer, and it seems to be the source of a lot of your 
> 
> difficulties. Most people just accept the default installation and 
> don't 
> run into these issues. I agree they should be addressed, but not at 
> the 
> expense of deferring fixes/enhancements which are needed for 
> standard 
> operations in day-to-day activities.
> 
> My experience over the last couple of years is very different from 
> what 
> you'e feeling. Implementation is not arbitrary, but reflects the 
> information contained in the issue/enhancement tracking system 
> (which we 
> can look at and contribute to, including voting for issues of 
> interest 
> to us). The approach that appears to me to be taken is exactly what 
> you 
> recommend, but OOo is not a clone of MS Office. It has its own 
> structure, which can affect how things are done. There is a natural 
> tendency to feel that the way software we're familiar with (and have 
> 
> invested a lot of time in learning) does things is the "right" way, 
> so 
> anything different is "wrong." Personally, I've found that I can 
> nearly 
> always accomplish my tasks as well or better in OOo as I could with 
> MSO, 
> once I've learned how OOo handles it.
> 
> We really need to talk about specific features that create issues 
> for 
> you, if we're going to be of any help.
> 
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