Michele wrote:
[snip]
The Outline functionality in OOo like M$ Outline is not the same as the
navigator, not even close. I have been using outlining for the last 10
years, and know how it works. I have gone back to M$-Office with a sore
heart (M$Word 2000 in Wine, & M$-Word 2007 in VirtualBox). OOo just does not
have this ability, and has been on the cards for the last few (6 ?) years.

Hello,

I also use Microsoft office when I am at work (MS Office 2003) and
quite honestly, when thinking about the outline view and navigator at
a functional level  I find the navigator perfectly adequate:
if that is the position of developers at OOo, then you will not attract any M$-Outliner users, or any other outliner users I think. It is a navigator, not an outliner. I dearly want to use OOo but the outliner is essential for me. Normal letters etc. I do use OOo as much as I can,
but not for the documents and papers I write.

 it shows
the outline of the document allowing you to move sections of text
around and change the outline level.
'Drag & Drop' ?
I do not care about the formatting as I tend to always use paragraph styles.

Your email makes me suspect that I am not using the full power of the
outline view: what is it that makes you say that it is [quote]not even
close[/quote]?

Cheers,

Michele

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Please take a look at all the comments of the past 6 years under issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3959

Many writers commented, but those who do not use it often do not seem to
understand what the writers want. I have just looked at OOo 2.4.1.6 with Navigator. It is a good navigation tool to get around in the document, but laborious if
you try to work in the document as in M$-outliner.
M$-Outliner works like most outliners out there, it is not difficult to
see the differences if you look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner

Here are also many links to outliners. Most writers indicate an intrinsic outliner like M$-Word, instead of the extrinsic outliner that Navigator seems to be developing to. The main benefit is the ease of use of M$-Word Outline view to work and display all in one view.

Also, the outline view has to be compatible with M$-Office in this respect too, because many have done work already and need to reuse and edit existing documents from M$-outline view in an OOo-Outline view.
All else has been discussed in the issue 3959, it is not useful to discuss it 
all here again.

HTH
Al




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