John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:14:32 +1000
"Adrian Try" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:27 AM, John Boyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To Adrian: So you to fiddle with Scribus, also? Maybe you could give me
some help and how to use it myself? :-)
I've fiddled with Scribus a lot, and I like it. But I always end up doing my
real work in OpenOffice.org. One day...
If you have some specific questions, feel free to email me off list
(probably shouldn't talk too much about Scribus issues here) - but I can't
promise to be too much help.
I have found a reasonable Scibus tutorial somewhere on the net (possibly
done by the Scribus people themselves), but I don't have the link handy at
the moment.
There is a lot about Scribus on the net. There is also an excellent Scribus
e-list that you can subscribe to here:
scribus mailing list
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http://lists.scribus.info/mailman/listinfo/scribus
Since this is an OOo list, further Scribus discussion should go to the Scribus
list above.
OK time to get back on topic again. This isn't supposed to be a
conversation about Scribus or Xfig I only mentioned it as an example of
purpose made DTP programs.
Like Adrian said Dia and Kivio probably do make better Visio
alternatives than OO.Draw.
So I suppose what is left to discuss... is OO.Draw (if forced to pick
one)...
- Supposed to be like Visio
- Supposed to be like Inkscape
- Supposed to be like Scribus
Because to be honest I don't think it has the feature set to be a proper
drawing program, a proper DTP, OR a proper 'layout-thingy' Visio-like
program.
People will just use it for whatever the hell they like because it came
with OO.Writer / Calc etc... and then get confused why it lacks so much
and want more and more features out of it. Which means it will need
some direction on what it is meant to become or it will turn into all
these three things. My tiny recommendation so far is changing the shape
of the default page something other than A4 (I've already discussed the
full reasons in another post) to stop confusion with a DTP.
I'm in favour of it becoming Visio-like, we all seem to be in agreement
there are better DTP apps out there... and SVG / PNG already exists for
open standard graphics which Inkscape covers.
Apparently the Scribus team are looking to (in the future) make their
format an ISO standard... which would provide us with a decent
alternative to .PUB files... maybe when this format is finalised and
given a name a new OO program can be made to use it in the future.
I just think OO.Draw needs a little more direction, the name 'Draw' kind
of covers all kinds of crap - and you can do anything you normally do on
OO.Draw in OO.Writer lol.
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