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> On Apr 5, 2018, at 5:29 AM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:08 AM, TomK <tomk...@mdevsys.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2018 3:11 AM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Tom <t...@mdevsys.com 
>>> <mailto:t...@mdevsys.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>     On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com
>>>     <mailto:yk...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:12 PM, TomK <tomk...@mdevsys.com
>>>>     <mailto:tomk...@mdevsys.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>         Hey Guy's,
>>>> 
>>>>         If I'm looking to setup the oVirt engine in an HA
>>>>         configuration off the physical servers hosting my VM's (non
>>>>         self hosted), what are my options here?
>>>> 
>>>>         I want to setup two to four active oVirt engine instances
>>>>         elsewhere and handle the HA via something like haproxy /
>>>>         keepalived to keep the entire experience seamless to the user.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     You will need to set up the oVirt engine service as well as the PG
>>>>     database (and ovirt-engine-dwhd service and any other service we
>>>>     run next to the engine) as highly available module.
>>>>     In pacemaker[1], for example.
>>>>     You'll need to ensure configuration is also sync'ed between nodes,
>>>>     etc.
>>>>     Y.
>>> 
>>>     So already have one ovirt engine setup separately on a vm that
>>>     manages two remote physical hosts.  So familiar with the single host
>>>     approach which I would simply replicate.  At least that’s the idea
>>>     anyway.  Could you please expand a bit on the highly available
>>>     module and  syncing the config between hosts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's a different strategy, which is also legit - you treat this VM as a 
>>> highly available resource. Now you do not need to sync the config - just 
>>> the VM disk and config.
>> 
>> I think there's a postgres component too and if oVirt engine keeps all it's 
>> date on the postgres tables, then synchronizing this piece might be all I 
>> need?  I'm not sure how the separate oVirt engines sitting on various 
>> separate physical hosts keep their settings in sync about the rest of the 
>> physicals in an oVirt environment. (Assume we may have 100 oVirt physicals 
>> for example.)
> 
> There's more than just the database, although it contains 99% of what you 
> need. See the content of the result of 'engine-backup' command.
> I think you might be somewhat confusing between the number of oVirt 
> hypervisors (we support hundreds) and the Engine - the management, which is 
> single - and with hosted-engine, it's a single, but highly available virtual 
> machine - that can run on one of several (I suggest 3-8) of those hypervisors.
> Y.

Yah, still very new to much of this.  Thank you again.

I’ll take that away and do some reading.  

Cheers,
Tom

>  
>> 
>> 
>>> Perhaps something like 
>>> https://www.unixarena.com/2015/12/rhel-7-pacemaker-configuring-ha-kvm-guest.html
>>>  .
>>> 
>>> But if you are already doing that, I'm not sure why you'd prefer this over 
>>> hosted-engine setup.
>> 
>> I'm comparing both options.  I really don't want to ask too many specific 
>> until I have the chance to read into the details of both.
>> 
>>> Y.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Tom
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Cheers,
>>>     Tom
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     [1] https://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html
>>>>     <https://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         From what I've seen in oVirt, that seems to be possible
>>>>         without the two oVirt engines even knowing each other's
>>>>         existence but is it something anyone has ever done?  Any
>>>>         recommendations in this case?
>>>> 
>>>>         Having settings replicated would be a bonus but I would be
>>>>         comfortable if they weren't and I handle that myself.
>>>> 
>>>>         --         Cheers,
>>>>         Tom K.
>>>>         
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>> Tom K.
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>> 
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