On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 16:52 +0100, Gordon Sim wrote:
> ...
> > This is recorded as a JIRA [1] which has been open for a couple of
> > years.
> 
> You can of course also specify a mech list in the cyrus sasl config.

True, but this is fairly complex - involving a configuration file used
for no other purpose and setting up an environment variable.

> > I think this is simple and straigtforward, however it changes the
> > mechanism selection semantic significantly if you actually want
> > Kerberos.
> 
> To me it, this solves one usability issue at the expense of creating 
> another. The argument for it would be that the issue solved affects
> more 
> people than the issue created and I have no evidence to the contrary.

What do you perceive the new usability issue to be specifically?

> My own inclination would be to leave things as they are without
> clear 
> evidence that this is a change users would prefer, but I wouldn't
> oppose 
> a different view.

There have been a number of users that have been tripped up by this, as
 well as the developers at Red Hat frequently. I didn't do a search on
the lists yet.

> ...
> 
> I think 'problematic' is the wrong term to use there (seems somewhat 
> libelous!).

I know I'm going into bike shedding territory here (!) but do you have
another word that you think is less 'libelous'? IMO every word that
captures the problem is likely to be equally libelous!

Andrew

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