I am sorry I brought this up, and apologise for my ignorance. Let's move on. :)
On 5 April 2012 14:55, Sebastian Reitenbach <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thursday, April 5, 2012 01:18 CEST, Advrk Aplmrkt <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> OK, I will try the ZEG and go from there. >> >> " >> >> So you also drive a car without a drivers license because you don't have >> >> the time and expertise?" >> >> Funny you asked. I actually DON'T have a driver's licence for that >> exact reason. :) (but don't worry, I don't drive) > > Good to know then ;) > >> >> I was just thinking that a web based installer would make installation >> easier for both experts and novices, and not just me. > > Lets pick an example of a web installer: SugarCRM, there the > installer/upgrader is a real mess, OK its easy, but it requires the admin to > have all files/directories writable by the UID running Apache, ask yourself, > how sane is that? > That's the same problem nearly any web based installers have. Or do you run > your apache as root? Hope not ;) > And for example, I run SOGo on OpenBSD, where Apache is chrooted by default, > so it would be impossible to use a web based installer to get SOGo installed > in "normal" system locations. > > cheers, > Sebastian > >> >> Thank you for all of your replies. Really appreciate the quick >> responses in this forum. >> >> On 4 April 2012 14:14, Steve Ankeny <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Why not simply try one of the ZEGs found here? >> > >> > http://www.sogo.nu/english/downloads/zeg.html >> > >> > v2.0.0 beta 5 should be updated to a release candidate soon. >> > >> > The advantage: IT'S PRE-CONFIGURED! and you can try it before you take the >> > time to learn how to install. >> > >> > Simply create a virtual machine somewhere on your server of choice, and >> > import the ZEG file. Most of the changes you may want to make can be done >> > via Webmin, or you can ask questions on the userlist or ask Inverse. >> > >> > Works great! and virtualization costs so little when you have existing >> > server space. >> > >> > >> > On 4/4/2012 1:53 PM, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 02:32 CEST, Advrk Aplmrkt<[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello, >> >>> >> >>> I am wondering if an easier method could be developed for installing >> >>> SOGo? Two examples: >> >>> >> >>> (1) Including a web installer, such as the PHP based installer for >> >>> RoundCube (http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Howto_Install). This way, an >> >>> administrator could unpack SOGo onto their web server, type in an URL, >> >>> and follow the installation wizard. >> >>> >> >>> (2) Install via a Webmin module. I realise there is a Webmin module >> >>> for SOGo, but could it be used to *install* SOGo in the first place >> >>> from scratch? If so, I would really like to know. It not, what can be >> >>> done to make the module as an installer for SOGo? >> >>> >> >>> Will any of these features, or any changes to make installation >> >>> easier, be incorporated into the upcoming SOGo 2? By the way, is there >> >>> a release date (or at least rough estimate) for SOGo 2? >> >>> >> >>> I ask these questions because I am trying to setup SOGo on my personal >> >>> server, but don't have the time or expertise to learn everything about >> >>> LDAP, SQL databases, Postfix, IMAP, etc. etc. But SOGo provides the >> >>> best functionality, and there is no other groupware that I find >> >>> comparable... >> >> >> >> So you also drive a car without a drivers license because you don't have >> >> the time and expertise? >> >> >> >> Well, you don't need to be an expert to setup all the stuff. It only takes >> >> a couple of days to learn >> >> the basics of each to figure out how they play together. Think about it >> >> for a minute, afterwards, >> >> you will know what to backup, and how to restore, in case of a disaster. >> >> You already thought >> >> about something like this happen, don't you? >> >> >> >> cheers, >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >>> Thank you very much. -- [email protected] https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
