Actually, it is a very good idea, but you are fighting the tide of the
average Linux developer who sees installing as a badge of awesomeness,
and complexity as a way of life. When you've got both, it's nerdvana, right?
iRedMail is a good example of what a professionally-minded installation
should be. Really enjoyed the fact that I could get a good install and
get on to project nb. 2 pretty quickly, rather than the usual spiritual
trek that a Linux software install can be.
Look, sysadmins are busy. A good installer is *always very* appreciated.
Could I do it? Yes. Would I like to have it done for me? Yes too. And,
the fact that some people may install sometimes in weird ways doesn't
mean the project can't properly cater to the "99%".
My 2 cents...
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On 4/5/2012 3:48 PM, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote:
I am sorry I brought this up, and apologise for my ignorance. Let's move on. :)
On 5 April 2012 14:55, Sebastian Reitenbach
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 01:18 CEST, Advrk Aplmrkt<[email protected]>
wrote:
OK, I will try the ZEG and go from there.
"
So you also drive a car without a drivers license because you don't have
the time and expertise?"
Funny you asked. I actually DON'T have a driver's licence for that
exact reason. :) (but don't worry, I don't drive)
Good to know then ;)
I was just thinking that a web based installer would make installation
easier for both experts and novices, and not just me.
Lets pick an example of a web installer: SugarCRM, there the installer/upgrader
is a real mess, OK its easy, but it requires the admin to have all
files/directories writable by the UID running Apache, ask yourself, how sane is
that?
That's the same problem nearly any web based installers have. Or do you run
your apache as root? Hope not ;)
And for example, I run SOGo on OpenBSD, where Apache is chrooted by default, so it would
be impossible to use a web based installer to get SOGo installed in "normal"
system locations.
cheers,
Sebastian
Thank you for all of your replies. Really appreciate the quick
responses in this forum.
On 4 April 2012 14:14, Steve Ankeny<[email protected]> wrote:
Why not simply try one of the ZEGs found here?
http://www.sogo.nu/english/downloads/zeg.html
v2.0.0 beta 5 should be updated to a release candidate soon.
The advantage: IT'S PRE-CONFIGURED! and you can try it before you take the
time to learn how to install.
Simply create a virtual machine somewhere on your server of choice, and
import the ZEG file. Most of the changes you may want to make can be done
via Webmin, or you can ask questions on the userlist or ask Inverse.
Works great! and virtualization costs so little when you have existing
server space.
On 4/4/2012 1:53 PM, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 02:32 CEST, Advrk Aplmrkt<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello,
I am wondering if an easier method could be developed for installing
SOGo? Two examples:
(1) Including a web installer, such as the PHP based installer for
RoundCube (http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Howto_Install). This way, an
administrator could unpack SOGo onto their web server, type in an URL,
and follow the installation wizard.
(2) Install via a Webmin module. I realise there is a Webmin module
for SOGo, but could it be used to *install* SOGo in the first place
from scratch? If so, I would really like to know. It not, what can be
done to make the module as an installer for SOGo?
Will any of these features, or any changes to make installation
easier, be incorporated into the upcoming SOGo 2? By the way, is there
a release date (or at least rough estimate) for SOGo 2?
I ask these questions because I am trying to setup SOGo on my personal
server, but don't have the time or expertise to learn everything about
LDAP, SQL databases, Postfix, IMAP, etc. etc. But SOGo provides the
best functionality, and there is no other groupware that I find
comparable...
So you also drive a car without a drivers license because you don't have
the time and expertise?
Well, you don't need to be an expert to setup all the stuff. It only takes
a couple of days to learn
the basics of each to figure out how they play together. Think about it
for a minute, afterwards,
you will know what to backup, and how to restore, in case of a disaster.
You already thought
about something like this happen, don't you?
cheers,
Sebastian
Thank you very much.
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