Gentlemen,

I would like to chime in here and I REALLY DO NOT WISH TO OFFEND.

This is constructive criticism and should be taken as such.

IF Zimbra had followed programming standards and was not locked into such a 
poorly designed install paradigm, I would be running it at this point.

However, Sogo, at least superficially, seems to be better designed and 
implemented and allows a certain amount of platform agnosticism.  (aka platform 
independence)

I have 25 years with BS in Comp Sci from a reputable school.  I am highly 
versed system administration, large scale system administration, systems 
architecture and consulting and contracting.  I'm one of the few with a real 
degree that went into system administration as a career.

Now, the issue:  SOGo's documentation is horrid.  Please do not take that 
lightly.  I have seen many, many products and I've even authored a few while I 
was at EMC (Their backup product and SAN direction was mine back in 1994.)  I 
document at the level of the lowest common factor.  That is, take someone who 
was barely able to load an OS and then take them through screen captures of the 
process.

I'm attempting to get this ported over to FreeBSD as I believe it to be a 
superior product.  However, if one little thing that I read over 10 times had 
to be, finally, pointed out by Jean (I believe), as to what I was looking for, 
that says something very, very bad.

If you want your product to be embraced as the paragon it seems to be, take a 
look at the FreeBSD world.  No, I'm not being a BSD bigot and this is not a 
Linux vs BSD flame war.  Their documentation is robust, stable and leaves very 
little to interpretation.  For example, read just a little of the FreeBSD 
Handbook that is online.  In parts, it lacks, everywhere else, it's pretty 
brilliant.

Documentation is required.  Good documentation is acceptable and acceptance.  
Excellent documentation will yield ease of adoption and market penetration.  
(Of course, turnkey is Microsoft and that leads to:  wth is going on here?  
when it breaks)

(I only wrote this letter as I believe I have had a good experience with the 
people on this users list so far and I believe all are capable of embracing 
constructive criticism.)

Thank you all for reading,

P.




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 From: Paul Kelly <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SOGo] Dear progammers and architects
 

I am glad you took the time to understand the manual, and thank you for your 
reply. 
I was unwilling/unable.
I have removed Sogo,  Zimbra is already downloaded.

Thank you anyway..

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Szládovics Péter <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2013-07-06 17:12 keltezéssel, [email protected] írta:
>> First, you have what looks like a great project.
>> ...
> 
> I think "read the manual" not equal the "understand the manual".
> I have some sogo instances with mysql, and gave no any problem. I don't know 
> what is your problem.
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