Hi,
argl, another one mail with hidden subject "I got no running SOGo, but
its the fault of the others".
I like SOGo very well, and I got it running with MySQL several times
with no problems just by reading the docs, which impressed me (and my
managers ;-) ), by the way, because of the "100 Pages" with substance
(And its growing better and better with every version).
Ok - the OpenChange part made me some problems, but maybe I was to
chicken to assign SOGo via OpenChange to our stable running AD ...
But - the time I started my first experiments with SOGo, I began by
reading the docs, installed it with help of the docs (Ubuntu/Debian),
got it running with mysql.
I do not understand why a not native speaker like me (I'm from Germany,
and having a ... an ugly english) has no problems with the
documentation, and the "natives" have.
Sure, IMHO there are some parts to make a bit better, but as Ludovic
said: share it.
Sure, sometimes there is nothing to share because of low knowledge (i.
e. I have no glue about the filter language in the LDAP config of SOGo),
but asking for it in a polite way will give a good answer (some month
ago Ludovic gave me a tip which helped me quite a lot).
Sometimes the answer is not so you like it ... but you have to live with
it (MS TechNet is sometimes nice, but often ... argl! I have to live
with it and have to learn or solve my problem in an other way. Steve
Balmer will not take my hands ... ;-) (Better it is))
My experience is: the people which seems to be frustated are wanted to
much, in to less time with so much less effort and so automatic like
switching lights on. (Sorry for this! Its not constructive).
Going step by step, better: step after step seems not to be a way for
them to increase their knowledge about a system like SOGo.
But, YOU HAVE to invest some time to read and to understand - and
testing. You have to invest it with Zarafa, Zimbra, SOGo, Exchange,
Windows , Computers, learn to write mails ... its always work (and,
second experience, less work with SOGo).
I read the mails with the so called "constructive critic", but didn't
saw that. There was only critic. "Constructive" is, when you say, WHAT
you mean and HOW to make it better in your opinion. But it is not, when
you say "the documentation is ...".
So, please tell us, the quiet (frustated?) SOGo-using majority, what WE
ALL TOGETHER can make better and HOW. And, pls, be polite.
Greetings,
Martin Rabl
P.S.: sharing, i.e., means that:
http://iabsis.com/EN/article/35/Installation-de-Samba4-et-Openchange-sur-un-serveur-Debian-ou-Ubuntu
That is a good work!
Am 06.07.13 22:41, schrieb Ludovic Marcotte:
> On 2013-07-06 4:27 PM, Paul Pathiakis wrote:
>> The rest of the people will just throw their hands up in frustration
>> and walk away. Is that what you want?
> As I said in my previous email: "If you have ideas on how to improve
> the doc, share them."
>
> So far, you honestly haven't shared anything but rants in your two
> emails.
>
> I'm not defensive at all, we all want to improve SOGo but that starts
> with concrete things. So again, if you have ideas on how to improve
> the docs, share them, it can't be more simple.
>
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