On 02.08.20 13:18, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
They will procrastinate until the end of time unless we do something.  I
tried hard, but they are lazy/ignorant/careless.  Blacklisting would
trigger a problem with most of their customers, then they will try to
de-list at first, then they will comply when de-listing is rejected.

I don't think there's point in blacklisting hoat that sends fake helo, when
you can block the helo itself.

yes, I think that such helo should be blocked and I block it wherever I can.

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On 2 Aug 2020, 12:30, Matus UHLAR - fantomas < [email protected]> wrote:
On 02.08.20 05:11, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
Correction: it is not the mid, it is the helo.
oh... this is something quite different.
But unless multiple servers start implementing reject_unknown_helo_hostname,
such companies ignore to change that...
... apparently with possibly reject_non_fqdn_elo_hostname and
reject_invalid_helo_hostname. and smtpd_helo_required=yes of course
-------- Original Message --------
On 1 Aug 2020, 14:58, Rupert Gallagher < [email protected]> wrote:
Two well known companies in my country persist in making the mistake of writing 
their mid with a non-public fqdn, violating the rfc. It has been so for the 
past three years, with me sending detailed, manually written error messages to 
their painstakingly collected admin addresses. Their answer is that everybody 
else accepts their invalid mid, and their servers are enterprise ibm / 
microsoft shitware that they are unwilling to fix. Since we get a lot of their 
emails, I decided to scale up their problem. There are many blacklists, and I 
have no intention to go through each idiosyncratic procedure.

Is there an ombusdman that superintends the major blacklists and enforces rfc 
compliance through them?

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