On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 03:31 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 19:40 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 01:07 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> > > Ham!?  PBL, SORBS DUL. Are you trying to use whitelisting to protect
> > > outgoing messages? Shouldn't you be using authenticated SMTP instead?
> > 
> > No Karsten, this is incoming mail to my machine. I don't run a server,
> > this is straight from my ISP, picked up with fetchmail and processed
> > through procmail.
> 
> Yeah, I was wondering about that like shorty after I sent the message.
> The "ham" got me confused, thinking it really was ham.
> 
> > > Oh, and... Do you DKIM sign mail before scanning it with SA?
> > 
> > No, as you can see here, my ISP adds the DKIM signature.
> > 
> > http://pastebin.com/LqVtvjgM
> 
> OK, wait. That sample is really an example showing the DKIM headers,
> sent by *you*. Right? It's authenticated.
> 
> So, yeah, DKIM signing that one looks right.
> 
> Begs the question why the phish that started this thread has been DKIM
> signed by your ISP, too. Seriously.
> 
> Hmm, from your original pastebin:
> 
>  Authentication-Results:  smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=thewhedbees;
>   auth=pass (LOGIN)
>  Received: from [201.216.4.186] ([201.216.4.186:4248] helo=User) by
>   mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from <al...@embarqmail.com>)
>   (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPA id DB/9E-17249-7F22B9C4;
>   Thu, 23 Sep 2010 05:54:58 -0400
> 
> So, this ALSO was an authenticated submission? And that's why your ISP
> signed it. Which would explain why it got whitelisted, no?
> 
> Yup, *that* is how you do targeted phishing! Don't send from an outside
> machine, but crack an account or otherwise send from internal, trusted
> sources. It will make your phish look much more legit.
> 
> 

Question I have, and I'll have to ask in the embarq forum at DSLReports
(though I'll probably not get an answer, or the one I want) is how/why
did my ISP dkim sign a message with a sender IP of 201.216.4.186 which
is in Bogota, Columbia.

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Chris
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