-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 André,
On 1/23/14, 6:09 PM, André Warnier wrote: > Christopher, > > Christopher Schultz wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >> >> André, >> >> On 1/23/14, 2:08 PM, André Warnier wrote: >>> Ray Holme wrote: >>>> Doing anything as root conceals the errors. Tomcat is no >>>> exception and changing it to a real user makes your testing >>>> complete. >>>> >>> Guys, I think that the rule (or should I say suggestion ?) on >>> this list to *not* top-post is not working. Either people >>> don't read the rules, or they do not understand the rule, or >>> they just ignore it. >>> >>> Anyway, it seems that we're spending more time lately asking >>> people to not top-post, than actually providing answers to >>> their questions. >>> >>> So I have a few suggestions of my own : - have the list >>> software add a message in *bold* to all messages, indicating >>> that top posts will be *ignored* ? - just ignore top-posts ? - >>> drop the rule ? >> >> - -1 to all three. Tomcat (and the ASF as a whole) is a >> community, and our job as ... vocal? members of the community is >> to help meet the needs of that community. If top-posting >> irritates us, we just have to ask that people help us help >> themselves. >> >> But simply summarily ignoring top-posted replies is childish. If >> the top-posting becomes intolerable (it happens sometimes, >> especially when there is a complex thread going on and someone - >> usually the OP - continues to top-post), then feel free to stop >> replying. But don't crucify people for top-posting alone. >> >> Some people can't figure out how to reply properly. Just gently >> remind posters of the rules and get back to business. There is >> no need to reply to a post by simply saying "Don't top-post" and >> leaving it at that. Save your own time and the time of everyone >> else on the list (and the archives, where useless messages can't >> be removed) and just skip that step. If you want to reply >> meaningfully, feel free to add the "don't top-post" somewhere in >> your reply. >> > > In a general sense, I do agree with all of that. "Be tolerant of > what you receive, and strict in what you produce" and that kind of > thing. > > It's just that top-posting /is/ really annoying on this kind of > list. And also that it takes quite a lot of energy to politely ask > someone to not top-post, and give them the reason why, and point > them to the list rules. > > Might there be some kind of "macro" in the Tomcat list server, > which would allow us to paste such a statement into a response, > with just a couple of keystrokes ? > > As a matter of fact, a few such macros would come in handy. On a > historical and statistical base : [TOP] Please don't top-post, > because.. [VER] Please provide Tomcat version, Java version, > platform OS & version [OLD] That version of Tomcat is %d years > old. You should upgrade to the latest version, which has many more > features and fixes for the latest security issues. [CONF] Can you > post the relevant bits of your configuration here (server.xml) ? > Please paste it in-line, don't send it as attachment, the list > strips them. And remove comments and any sensitive information > (passwords etc.) [RTFM] Please check the on-line documentation at > http://tomcat.apache.org [SMART] > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [PAW] Patches > are always welcome [HTTPD] This is the Apache Tomcat list, your > question relates to Apache httpd, see http://httpd.apache.org > [SPEC] Please check the Java Servlet Specification at .. [LAZY] > http://lmgtfy.com/ [COMP101] Is this a school exercise ? [BUG] > It's not a bug, it's a feature [FEAT] Could you create a Bugzilla > entry ? [ASAP] Tomcat is open source and free. This list is manned > by volunteers. If you would prefer instant gratification, please > consult the list of commercial Tomcat consultants at.. [CAPS] > (alias of [ASAP]) [$] (alias of [ASAP]) [CON] It's Context, with a > capital C [CON2] Don't do that (put your <Context> in server.xml). > [2C] Just my 2 cent [ROOT] It's ROOT.war -- capitalization matters, even when using a case-insensitive filesystem. - -chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS4aryAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYtLcP/1JHJO1omNO7zgXyl6CN3Kqu D6W3wh8nyABycCDnUxQLDdkVOUe+cUJ/p9eW4U2TVMIp3Iqf9R6umvROSi0PJAu6 4rdGriR5TJbUigNiEy/pTiW06tZgsYH+3LGMetCvfG2tvz1Chd53CxDXAOwHiuFB EGY6YHmJRPDc/6xQadCqRpyKSyfwHfmdCmxg22n+nMWW7cs+wMHdgHInMEj7tv1i BwltfEK7mX27eJ7EsM54bo+96eVRexbjgL7qZ84SagXTk66JxPMXqxaoJyYqPXG8 KI04+Qf37UmrPJXLkJKXmjSzqSAFUV4RZa7D/VlPkBdBKPzqHwUKk3LMT5O27Xez ZioFZrsbxrz+SEEjfRzh3HT67QcQ4L6imiUbuJ/zWfI9bBG9mgwaFyVQvD2kj9d7 8+Gic3xEa/AHM0BTwaQo7GLIihlH1EiTSoX03BRmp4Ch+FPlSBhaUCP1ZanMv7kb YIdvxCcSOCDMulc5/Z0sVESH5Q5D4UNKlRqZZsbH2VjIi4HFoL/b60m7sDsXMjRQ g9GgFeiNVhUHOYwmQhZXN7V9tEgWpk0wzt6q2Roz8IzG4UhMRx9X7xwCU1a3uG0/ wstnsKUrtxI4DGuf/nlHqmNnSQ65hCgzRb0F+/uh+Xx0DdX9oKtWU2fZNnvlc2SO 5Clo6OgXQYmkZZT39Poq =HLmd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
