On 08/01/18 09:39, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 05/01/18 22:09, Don Flinn wrote: >> Hi Mark, >> >> I think this is an excellent and useful task. The first step is to define >> the audiences of which I would like to suggest five. >> >> 1. Experienced System administrators with experience in security and SSL >> 2. Experienced System administrators with no or little experience in >> security and SSL >> 3 Non system administrators with experience in security and SSL >> 4. Non system administrators with no or little experience in security and >> SSL >> 5. Overarching each of the above is the different CAs that might be used > > You could probably break down the audience in a similar manner for most > of the Tomcat topics. > >> A question would be are audiences 3 and 4 populated. I for one fall >> somewhere between 3 and 4, but maybe I'm the only one. It seems to me that >> small companies would fall into 3 and 4. A big further complication is >> item 5, which applies to each of the others. > > Indeed. The general idea would be to write material that covers all of > these and then adjust what is actually taught to the particular audience. > >> I wrote a short write-up to this site about a month age addressing >> audiences 2, 3 and 4, mostly 4 and was told that this was not what was >> wanted, that all the information was somewhere on the web. That is true >> but trying to find it, absorb and apply it is difficult. > > We do try and keep the docs succinct and direct users elsewhere for > background. I remember that write up - it is similar to the content of > the intro to TLS presentation I have given previously. It is the sort of > content we would want to include in the training course. > > More generally, I'm updating the wiki with the suggestions as I spot > them on the mailing list. Please do keep the suggestions coming and ping > me if I miss something. > > Mark > > >> >> Don >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:16 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> One of the things on my TODO list is to put together some Tomcat >>> training material licensed under the Apache License (version 2). i.e. >>> material that would be made freely available for folks to use. >>> >>> I'd also like to make the training material available on YouTube as well >>> as run some training courses (for a small fee) to deliver the material >>> face to face. >>> >>> The structure I have in mind is a series of modules (say 30 mins in >>> length) that can be organised in different ways to suit different needs. >>> e.g. put the introductory modules for each area together to provide an >>> 'Introduction to Tomcat course', put all the TLS modules together to >>> provide an in depth 'Tomcat and TLS' course etc. >>> >>> I think a lot of the raw content is already available. We have the >>> various Tomcat presentations that have been given over the years and my >>> employer has agreed to let me make use of the material from our (now >>> possibly a little dated) Tomcat training courses. >>> >>> I can't do this alone. Not in any reasonable time frame anyway. So I am >>> reaching out to the community for help. >>> >>> The first step is to come with: >>> - a list of modules >>> - potential courses formed from combinations of modules >>> >>> I am asking for your ideas for modules, courses and combinations of >>> modules that could make up those courses. >>> >>> We have a blank wiki page to host this: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/Tomcat+Training+Course >>> >>> Feel free to ask for edit access to that page (you'll need to create an >>> account and let us know the user name) so you can add ideas directly or >>> add ideas to this thread and I'll add them to the wiki page. >>> >>> The second step is to start populating the modules with actual content. >>> As a motivator to get this done, I'd like to run a public Tomcat >>> training course in late March / early April using this material. My >>> current thinking is that the course would cost ~£100 plus food per >>> person for the full day. Possible locations for this course are: >>> - Cardiff >>> - Birmingham >>> - Manchester >>> - Glasgow >>> (all in the UK - if successful we can expand to mainland Europe and beyond) >>> >>> My second request is for feedback on which location(s) are preferable >>> and what content would you like to see in the training course. I'll take >>> this feedback, put together a course and then make it available to book. >>> >>> I look forward to all your ideas.
Ping. The current list of ideas is here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/Tomcat+Training+Course More ideas are welcome. Based on what we have so far, a "Tomcat for system admins" course aimed at experienced system admins who are unfamiliar with Tomcat looks like the best fit. Any feedback regarding location? Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
