On 25/01/18 12:08, Alex O'Ree wrote: > Understanding web.xml > > Understanding webapps without web.xml > > Security, authn and authz, ldap setups > > fIle system permissions
Thanks. I've added those topics to the list of modules where I (currently) think they fit best. Stuff may bget moved around as we start writing these modules and have a better idea of how much material is in each one. Mark > > On Jan 25, 2018 6:04 AM, "Mark Thomas" <ma...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On 08/01/18 09:39, Mark Thomas wrote: >>> On 05/01/18 22:09, Don Flinn wrote: >>>> Hi Mark, >>>> >>>> I think this is an excellent and useful task. The first step is to >> define >>>> the audiences of which I would like to suggest five. >>>> >>>> 1. Experienced System administrators with experience in security and SSL >>>> 2. Experienced System administrators with no or little experience in >>>> security and SSL >>>> 3 Non system administrators with experience in security and SSL >>>> 4. Non system administrators with no or little experience in security >> and >>>> SSL >>>> 5. Overarching each of the above is the different CAs that might be used >>> >>> You could probably break down the audience in a similar manner for most >>> of the Tomcat topics. >>> >>>> A question would be are audiences 3 and 4 populated. I for one fall >>>> somewhere between 3 and 4, but maybe I'm the only one. It seems to me >> that >>>> small companies would fall into 3 and 4. A big further complication is >>>> item 5, which applies to each of the others. >>> >>> Indeed. The general idea would be to write material that covers all of >>> these and then adjust what is actually taught to the particular audience. >>> >>>> I wrote a short write-up to this site about a month age addressing >>>> audiences 2, 3 and 4, mostly 4 and was told that this was not what was >>>> wanted, that all the information was somewhere on the web. That is true >>>> but trying to find it, absorb and apply it is difficult. >>> >>> We do try and keep the docs succinct and direct users elsewhere for >>> background. I remember that write up - it is similar to the content of >>> the intro to TLS presentation I have given previously. It is the sort of >>> content we would want to include in the training course. >>> >>> More generally, I'm updating the wiki with the suggestions as I spot >>> them on the mailing list. Please do keep the suggestions coming and ping >>> me if I miss something. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:16 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> One of the things on my TODO list is to put together some Tomcat >>>>> training material licensed under the Apache License (version 2). i.e. >>>>> material that would be made freely available for folks to use. >>>>> >>>>> I'd also like to make the training material available on YouTube as >> well >>>>> as run some training courses (for a small fee) to deliver the material >>>>> face to face. >>>>> >>>>> The structure I have in mind is a series of modules (say 30 mins in >>>>> length) that can be organised in different ways to suit different >> needs. >>>>> e.g. put the introductory modules for each area together to provide an >>>>> 'Introduction to Tomcat course', put all the TLS modules together to >>>>> provide an in depth 'Tomcat and TLS' course etc. >>>>> >>>>> I think a lot of the raw content is already available. We have the >>>>> various Tomcat presentations that have been given over the years and my >>>>> employer has agreed to let me make use of the material from our (now >>>>> possibly a little dated) Tomcat training courses. >>>>> >>>>> I can't do this alone. Not in any reasonable time frame anyway. So I am >>>>> reaching out to the community for help. >>>>> >>>>> The first step is to come with: >>>>> - a list of modules >>>>> - potential courses formed from combinations of modules >>>>> >>>>> I am asking for your ideas for modules, courses and combinations of >>>>> modules that could make up those courses. >>>>> >>>>> We have a blank wiki page to host this: >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/ >> Tomcat+Training+Course >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to ask for edit access to that page (you'll need to create an >>>>> account and let us know the user name) so you can add ideas directly or >>>>> add ideas to this thread and I'll add them to the wiki page. >>>>> >>>>> The second step is to start populating the modules with actual content. >>>>> As a motivator to get this done, I'd like to run a public Tomcat >>>>> training course in late March / early April using this material. My >>>>> current thinking is that the course would cost ~£100 plus food per >>>>> person for the full day. Possible locations for this course are: >>>>> - Cardiff >>>>> - Birmingham >>>>> - Manchester >>>>> - Glasgow >>>>> (all in the UK - if successful we can expand to mainland Europe and >> beyond) >>>>> >>>>> My second request is for feedback on which location(s) are preferable >>>>> and what content would you like to see in the training course. I'll >> take >>>>> this feedback, put together a course and then make it available to >> book. >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to all your ideas. >> >> Ping. >> >> The current list of ideas is here: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/Tomcat+Training+Course >> >> More ideas are welcome. >> >> Based on what we have so far, a "Tomcat for system admins" course aimed >> at experienced system admins who are unfamiliar with Tomcat looks like >> the best fit. >> >> Any feedback regarding location? >> >> Mark >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org