Excellent! My confusion was due to the slow-coming 64 bit OS release.
Thanks for clearing that up. I'm using the 64 bit version on most of my devices. John On 11/2/22, Felix Schumacher <felix.schumac...@internetallee.de> wrote: > > Am 02.11.22 um 17:41 schrieb John Dale (DB2DOM): >> Chris enters the room, gazes upon seven orcs, draws his sword, and >> opens the can of worms. >> >> Ooooh .. Philosophy. >> >> I love philosophy. >> >> :) >> >> Good philosophy starts with good questions. >> >> I love some of the newer hardware, too, but even Raspberry Pi is not >> yet 64 bit, is it? > Raspberry Pi is 64 Bit, (maybe not all of them), I am running an 64 Bit > OS on an Raspberry Pi 4. >> The dell computer that I'm working with at the moment is my case study >> - it's not slow at all. > > If it's fast enough and reliable enough for you, I think you can still > go (for a long time) with an JDK 8 and Tomcat 9.x. If I remember right, > we settled to support Tomcat 9.x for quite a while and Tomcat has no > requirements of its own to use 64 Bit. > > Felix > >> >> Am I alone in thinking that our technology is trying to leave humanity >> behind before it is truly not useful anymore? >> >> Unlike HAM radio operators, are you one of those crazy people who >> think we're somehow safe from disaster on planet Earth? >> >> I think this universe has much more in store for us. I also like to >> wring out every last bit of use from stuff. I also grind old >> screwdrivers that are "worn-out". >> >> I'll feel more comfortable when our high school grads understand EcE >> and computer manufacturing upon graduation. >> >> If we need faster computers to replace humans, what's the point? >> >> Video games? Meta? AI? >> >> What about baseball, Frisbee, stage productions, and Human Intelligence? >> >> Can an old 32 bit machine do modern encryption for telecommunications? >> >> Why are we still paying so much for phone service? >> >> Why aren't our high school grads capable of re-soldering components >> from these old boards and assembling them into something better and >> rewriting the software? >> >> So, I think it's a worthwhile discussion that I know many thought was >> settled as they gaze across fully stocked Wal Mart computer >> departments and newegg query results. >> >> If for no other reason, shouldn't we pry the specs out of the hands of >> Dell and others to understand and reconfigure and reprogam their >> machines? Or, are they afraid of what we'll discover? >> >> My working hypothesis is that if we remove what was put in there to do >> things we don't know about, these machines will speed-up considerably. >> >> :) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip >> >> >> >> >> On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz<ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: >>> John, >>> >>> On 10/27/22 11:03, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: >>>> Does anyone know of a report detailing how much of this older hardware >>>> is still out there and floating around? >>> You mean like a list of all pieced of hardware ever sold and never >>> scrapped? >>> >>> I think that would be practically impossible. >>> >>> I have a Palm 7 on a box in my office that has never been inventoried by >>> anybody and could possibly be plugged back in at any moment. There are >>> probably warehouses of stuff like what worldwide and you never know when >>> someone is going to plug-in any one of those devices and start playing >>> with it again. >>> >>>> Big picture: >>>> It's a lot of computer power in the event manufacturing hits a hiccup, >>>> I wouldn't want to be caught flat-footed until it could be >>>> re-established. >>> Are you suggesting that Linux should not drop support for i486 >>> architecture because if new machines aren't available due to >>> supply-chain issues, we might all have to re-rack 486s to keep our >>> services running? That sounds insane. We would simply do without. I'd >>> sooner put my old mobile phones into service supporting my applications >>> than an old i486. They are more powerful and reliable, and use less >>> electricity. >>> >>> There's a reason Linus wants to kill i486 support: >>> >>> "At some point, people have them as museum pieces. They might as well >>> run museum kernels." - Linus Torvalds >>> >>>> I like to build distilled portable stuff for that reason. I think >>>> DB2DOM could run on some really old versions of all of our favorite >>>> software if needed. >>> Great. I'm sure the transactions will only take a couple of seconds to >>> commit. No problem ;) >>> >>> -chris >>> >>>> On 10/26/22, Christopher Schultz<ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: >>>>> Shawn, >>>>> >>>>> On 10/26/22 00:14, Shawn Heisey wrote: >>>>>> The Linux kernel dropped support for 386 and 486 CPUs some time ago. >>>>> I was reading about this today, actually. Linux is currently actively >>>>> advocating for dropping 486 support, so it must still be in there. >>>>> >>>>> -chris >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail:users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail:users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail:users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail:users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
