William- Just went to gentoo site and cant read the type (without a magnifying glass)..apparently the font is cranked way down Please advise Martin-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le présent message électronique (y compris les pièces qui y sont annexées, le cas échéant) s'adresse au destinataire indiqué et peut contenir des renseignements de caractère privé ou confidentiel. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce document, nous vous signalons qu'il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer ou de le reproduire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.
> On 12/24/06, William L. Thomson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 20:24 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: >> > >> > Sorry, I don't buy it. >> >> You don't have to. This is open source and about choice. Given all of >> Tomcat's dependencies at compile time and runtime. If you want to stick >> with older versions of stuff. That's totally up to you. But I would say >> almost for a fact, that most all of Tomcat's deps, and bundled stuff are >> at least one minor version beyond where they were when the binary was >> made. If I had time I would provide a list :) > > Well yes, but maybe this is for a reason, like it simply doesn't work > with another version? > >> >> > I think you would spare your users tons of problems if you would just >> > re-distribute the binaries from tomcat.apache.org and not mess around >> > with things. >> >> First off we have lots of people running Tomcat on Gentoo. You have >> heard only from one, trying to get to that point. So support is not as >> much of an issue. For quite many things are ideal. > > That's not quite true :-) Each day there are at least 2-3 people on > the tomcat irc channel claiming having problems with tomcat, which > results in using package from a distro or gcj. Not all from gentoo > though :-) > >> >> But if anyone knows of a better way. Gentoo is a volunteer distro. Once >> your in the trenches for a bit, you might change your thoughts ;) >> >> Also I don't like having multiple copies of the same jars or libraries >> on my system. Maybe you do, again it's choice. The way we do things most >> systems will only have one copy of a lib that Tomcat might use. Netbeans >> also might use it, as well as other apps. Upgrade for one is an upgrade >> for all :) > > Exactly there we have a problem. If I have 2 apps demanding different > versions of stuff, I don't want to break the first by simply > installing the second :-) > >> >> > Noone who runs tomcat for professional reasons can allow >> > the os to do atomatic updates on it, and what is the other reason for >> > packaging? >> >> I run Tomcat for professional reasons. Its for those same reason I >> prefer to use the latest version of packages. Not outdated shipped >> binaries. But to each their own. > > So you have a complex automatic regression test suite to ensure that > your apps will run in the next version? Than I assume you have never > shiped a 5.0.x version above 5.0.19, since there was never a working > version in 5.0. branch after 5.0.19. > >> >> > And for the newbies the binaries tomcat.apache.org provides >> > are perfect (at least they work!). >> >> Did anyone ever say Tomcat on Gentoo did not work? Again this was an >> uninformed user griping about dependencies at compile time. Not runtime >> issues. > > Than gentoo is a lot better than debian or suse. > > But what my post is really about is: distros are good for stuff you > don't want to mess around with, like kernel, standard services or > security patches. But as soon as you seriously work with java, the > distros aren't sufficent. > I assume a vlc developer doesn't work with vlc or codec packages from > the distros either. > > > regards > Leon > > > Nevertheless merry XMax and a Happy New Year :-) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
