Hi David

Thanks for the useful info about IBM decision on switching form OpenJPA to
Eclipselink from JPA 2.1. I think that's exactly the point.

I myself also prefer OpenJPA, but I can understand why IBM wants to stick
with eclipselink from now on.

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Leo

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:13 AM, David Blevins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Nov 2, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hibernate is just not apache compliant, im not for eclipselink since it
> > usage and behavior is error prone and harder to control + id like to stay
> > apache.
> >
> > Well stay openjpa i think.
> >
> > Btw this kind of discussion is generally useless. You would have had the
> > same about bval...one week of work and we got it.
>
> Definitely a useful discussion as people are going on what's been
> documented, which is nothing in this area.
>
> For other readers, Romain is correct, we can't ship Hibernate due to
> licensing restrictions documented here:
>
>  - http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>    see "Which licenses may NOT be included within Apache products?"
>
> We already support/ship EclipseLink, so the question is really about what
> will happen with OpenJPA.
>
> I certainly hope OpenJPA can be brought up to JPA 2.1 compliance.
> Challenge for the readers is IBM was the main contributor and has simply
> tired of carrying the load alone:
>
>   -
> https://developer.ibm.com/wasdev/2014/05/28/eclipselink-jpa-provider-liberty-profile
>
>     "we agreed it was better to join forces with the EclipseLink open
> source
>      community than to be the primary (sole) developer in the OpenJPA
> community."
>
> This doesn't mean OpenJPA has to die, it just means if you believe in open
> source, now is the time to act on those beliefs.
>
> Three people in their spare time can do amazing things.
>
>
> -David
>
>

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