With other words, most of the other vendor packages are strictly seen also not 
‚certified‘ but only ‚compliant‘.
Which makes them not bad - it’s just that the terms often get mixed up by 
marketing (knowingly or not? I don’t know) and confuse users.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 11.01.2016 um 23:04 schrieb David Blevins <[email protected]>:
> 
> Correct and to be clear, there are two distinct words
> 
> - Certified = formal acknowledgement from Oracle for passing the Web Profile 
> or Full Profile TCK.  Oracle offers no other form of certification.
> - Compliant = passes the respective tests or conforms to the related spec.
> 
> In the majority of the thread the word “certified” is being used where really 
> “compliant” is more appropriate.
> 
> Per certification rules, there are just the two profiles (Web and Full).  To 
> be Web Profile certified by Oracle you have to implement and pass the Web 
> Profile technologies and ONLY the Web Profile technologies.  If you go one 
> inch further and add JAX-WS, JMS or anything else, you cannot call it 
> “certified” even if you pass the respective tests.
> 
> If we wanted to have a Java EE 6 Web Profile certified version of TomEE 1.x 
> that includes EclipseLink and Mojarra, we could do that, but we’d have to 
> remove JAX-RS, JAX-WS, and JMS from the box as none of those are in the Web 
> Profile.
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Blevins
> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> http://www.tomitribe.com
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:07 AM, COURTAULT Francois 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Romain,
>> 
>> To be sure to have understood you well: Plume is Java EE6 Web profile 
>> certified (pass the TCK tests) and not Java EE6 Full profile: right ?
>> According to an answer I have received, it seems that the Plume JAX-RS part 
>> is also certified, right ?
>> 
>> Best Regards.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: lundi 11 janvier 2016 09:02
>> To: COURTAULT Francois
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Question about Java EE certification TomEE and Plume
>> 
>> Ok, I was not very clear - let's blame the phone for this one ;): we cant 
>> certify tomee+ cause we dont pass (= dont run) TCKs for > webprofile (JMS 
>> for instance). Plume being plus based it has the same constraint but we pass 
>> TCKs for the webprofile part - hope it is clearer.
>> 
>> 
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>> 2016-01-11 8:58 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <[email protected]
>>> :
>> 
>>> Hello Romain,
>>> 
>>> If you go to http://tomee.apache.org/ you will see, in that page,
>>> that, for Plume, it is written NOT Java EE6 Certified.
>>> So mistake in the tomee main page  ?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: lundi 28 décembre 2015 13:50
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Question about Java EE certification TomEE and Plume
>>> 
>>> Plume has been certified for ee6.
>>> 
>>> Now as default provider i hope to stick to openjpa as much as possible
>>> to not break hundreds of applications.
>>> Le 28 déc. 2015 13:00, "Yann Blazart" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Hello, from my point of view, there's no problem.
>>>> 
>>>> You can change the JPA implementation following your needs, put
>>>> Hibernate for example.
>>>> 
>>>> I can garanty you that all my products running on webspehere and
>>>> weblogic was able to run in tomee. Sometimes some "proprietary"
>>>> config files to write or change, but this is part of Java EE specs.
>>>> 
>>>> You can test TomEE 7.0.0-M1, it's nearly readed to be released, and
>>>> it's a fantastic EE 7 server !
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-12-28 12:30 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> TomEE is quite nice but one thing which annoys me is about
>>>>> certification using EclipseLink.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me explain my concern:
>>>>> Some application servers like Weblogic and even Liberty, quite
>>>>> recently, uses EclipseLink as the JPA layer.
>>>>> But If I look at the TomEE docs, only the Plume delivery contains
>>>>> EclipseLink as the JPA layer, but this one is not Java EE 6 certified.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just want to know, if there are future plans in order to have
>>>>> JAX-RS delivery be Java EE 6 or Java EE 7 web profile certified
>>>>> but using EclipselInk (alternative to OpenJPA) as the JPA layer ?
>>>>> I ask this question  because it will most probably ease our
>>>>> migration
>>>> from
>>>>> some commercial app vendors to TomEE.
>>>>> 
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