> It could also mean their unwillingness to commit their time and > money on education. Do not rush with this kinds of claims. Everyone > has their reasons - not everyone is lazy. If you have good enough > reasons to make them move to Wicket they will probably do so. > Otherwise, blame yourself for your inability to influence.
I think you are the one rushing to a conclusion here. Or do you know his team? I the time we've been working on Wicket, and especially in the beginning, about 80% of the discussions outside the lists about Wicket and other non-standard technologies are always lead back to the same lousy short sighted arguments. Take for instance > Component based frameworks are not obvious. While a reasonable > developer of decent experience could pick up Struts 1/2 and be > efficient with it in a couple of hours. I would definitely drop Struts 1, > and stick with Struts 2 as that is a different kind of animal. Whether component based frameworks are obvious or not largely depends on where you're coming from. Don't think Struts is obvious to many people, even if you can learn it in a few hours. > I am not quite sure why Eelco is being so pushy on claiming no OOP is > done there Well, sorry for having an opinion. Model 2 frameworks encourage procedural programming. I'll repeat that a thousand times if you like. 'Actions' are not stateful, and their abstraction level matches the request/ response cycle, not anything more granular. If you're coding with model 2 frameworks, you are basically receiving a request, interpreting the parameters sent with that request, preparing the data for use in the view - which you in fact do globally for that template! - and finally requesting the framework to render a template. Now in contrast, applying OOP means that you can create abstractions that combine data (stateful) and behavior (scoped on the class, not the request/ response cycle) and that you can properly apply data hiding (link A doesn't have to have knowledge of link B/ rest of the page to function). > but I would really stay away from his opnions unless > they are somehow Wicket directed :-) Wow. I'd really like you to elaborate on that. Eelco --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
