gzip and minifing *do* go together.

Here's a really great site that compares the different approaches.
http://compressorrater.thruhere.net/

minifing before gziping shows a considerable reduction in content size
(usually between 5-10 percent).


On 9/2/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so we should do one or the other, i got the impression that his tool
> complained because js was not minified even though it was gzipped.
>
> -igor
>
>
> On 9/2/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For certain browsers (even IE6) the GZIP compression doesn't work. And
> if
> > you have a lot of javascripts (YUI, dojo, ...) it can make a difference.
> >
> > -Matej
> >
> > On 9/2/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > erm....what exactly is the point of minifing AND gziping javascript or
> > > anything else? if you take a zip file and then zip it again do you get
> a
> > > smaller file?
> > >
> > > -igor
> > >
> > > On 9/1/07, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > excellent!  Thanks Matej.  Let me know if you have any other ideas
> on
> > > > this.
> > > > As soon as there's an abstraction in place, i'll be happy to create
> a
> > > > wicketstuff project with the dojo (and maybe YUI) compressors!
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-918
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/1/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see reason why not, you can create a RFE in jira.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matej
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/2/07, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Creating a pluggable interface for this would allow for non-ASL
> > > > > solutions
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be hosted through wicket-stuff projects.  The default
> > implementation
> > > > > could
> > > > > > stay as it is today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/1/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, I certainly didn't want to reinvent the wheel. But all
> > > > existing
> > > > > > > solutions I was able to find either relied on a third part
> > library
> > > > > > > (shrinksafe) or had license not compatible with ASL. So I just
> > > wrote
> > > > a
> > > > > > > simple stripper. I think it still helps a lot, I didn't want
> to
> > > > build
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > perfect stripper.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you know of a solution that doesn't mean another dependency
> > and
> > > > is
> > > > > > > compatible with ASL, I have no objections.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Matej
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/1/07, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've been running my app through the YSlow firefox plugin,
> and
> > > > have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > *very* impressed on how wicket does the "right thing" most
> of
> > > the
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > > (ex:
> > > > > > > > gzip css and javascript).  nice work guys!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While digging through the YSlow feedback, it suggested that
> > the
> > > > > > > javascript
> > > > > > > > should be "minified".  This led me to the wicket
> > > > JavascriptStripper,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > after enabling it for my application, YSlow still reports
> that
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > scripts
> > > > > > > > are not minified.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There seem to be a number of javascript compression tools
> out
> > > > there,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > wondering if this functionality could be "pluggable" in
> > > > wicket.  I'm
> > > > > > > > interested in trying out a few different options to see
> their
> > > > > results:
> > > > > > > > * JSMin - http://inconspicuous.org/projects/jsmin/jsmin.java
> > > > > > > > * Dojo Shrink Safe - http://dojotoolkit.org/docs/shrinksafe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My impression is that the Wicket JavascriptStripper is a
> great
> > > > > > starting
> > > > > > > > solution, but there are quite a few very advanced solutions
> > out
> > > > > there,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it would be great if wicket could leverage them instead of
> > > > > > "re-inventing
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > wheel".  Has anyone looked into this in the past?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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