Turn on SecondLevelCacheSessionStore, and use FilePageStore as
IPageStore (specified in session store constructor). Then go to your
tmp dir and you should be able to find the serialized pages there.

-Matej

On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How can I figure it out?
>
>
>
>
> Johan Compagner wrote:
> >
> > if you save the page to disk how big is it?
> >
> > johan
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Indeed, it is a very big component hierarchy (It contains at least 3
> >> levels
> >> of nested AjaxTabbedPanel components).
> >> The application is, in fact, a single page and it uses a lot of ajax to
> >> perform the updates. The model reflect the component hierarchy
> >> (Appliction
> >> has a single modelObject which nests another objects corresponding to
> >> each
> >> component). I do not have a lot of detaching logic, because it is
> >> important
> >> to have all the data in the model (caching), also because the services
> >> are
> >> very costly operations.
> >>
> >> If this description is not enough for replication, I will be glad to help
> >> by
> >> giving you another details.
> >>
> >> Alex.
> >>
> >>
> >> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> >> >
> >> > How big is the page? Sounds like a really, really big component
> >> > hierarchy. Then it sounds reasonable that the httpsession store is
> >> > much faster: it keeps it in ram, and doesn't use serialization until
> >> > the session is serialized (server shutting down, deciding to put
> >> > session to disk or replication of session across cluster) iirc.
> >> >
> >> > I think we would appreciate some way of replicating your results. I
> >> > assume you can't share the actual code, but could you share a spin-off
> >> > of the page's component structure and a Model that replicates the data
> >> > stuff's size (including the detach logic)?
> >> >
> >> > Martijn
> >> >
> >> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> If the pages wouldn't be serializable, it wouldn't work in development
> >> >> mode.
> >> >> Is it right?
> >> >>
> >> >> I think that it is not necessarily about how large is application, in
> >> my
> >> >> case it is about how large is the model I'm working with for that
> >> >> specific
> >> >> request (ajax request).
> >> >>
> >> >> My action was: fetch a subview of a very large table 300x300, each
> >> cell
> >> >> has
> >> >> a heavy model object.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alex.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Johan Compagner wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > that looks very strange to me. We have also a very large app here
> >> and
> >> >> we
> >> >> > dont notice a difference
> >> >> > So i am very curious what is happening at your place then. Are you
> >> sure
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > example that the pages
> >> >> > are serializable ?  That we don't have constantly exceptions?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > johan
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Maybe the profiling was not a perfect one. But still, I have to
> >> give
> >> >> up
> >> >> >> using
> >> >> >> SecondSessionLevelStore just because the responsiveness of the
> >> >> >> application
> >> >> >> is very slow.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Johan Compagner wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > invocation count 1??
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So you only do 1 request and you profile that?
> >> >> >> > thats not a good test. You have to do plenty and multiply on  the
> >> >> same
> >> >> >> > time
> >> >> >> > (10 for 100 request or something like that)
> >> >> >> > to really see the difference. (and have a warm up phase)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > johan
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Matej, I must disagree with you regarding performance issues of
> >> the
> >> >> >> >> SecondLevelSessionStore. I've reverted the
> >> >> Application#newSessionStore
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> HttpSessionStore and this significantly improved the application
> >> >> >> overall
> >> >> >> >> performance. Maybe this is not so obvious for small
> >> applications,
> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> it is about a large one - things changes.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Below, you will find attached two images. The first one is a
> >> >> profiling
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> an
> >> >> >> >> action when working with HttpSessionStore, the second one is a
> >> >> >> profiling
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> the same action when using SecondSessionLevelStore. The
> >> difference
> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> huge:
> >> >> >> >> 593ms vs 174420ms. I cannot explain what exactly is going on,
> >> but
> >> >> I've
> >> >> >> >> noticed that by switching from default SecondLevelSessionStore
> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> HttpSessionStore improved a lot the responsiveness of the
> >> >> application.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Alex.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p12588790/HttpSessionStore.jpg
> >> >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p12588790/SecondSessionLevelStore.jpg
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Matej Knopp-2 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > You can revert to httpsessionstore by changing
> >> >> >> >> > Application.newSessionStore method. But that's not
> >> recommended.
> >> >> What
> >> >> >> >> > are your performance problems? I doubt it is caused by the
> >> >> session
> >> >> >> >> > store.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > -Matej
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On 9/7/07, jamieballing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> We are trying to do some performance troubleshooting and want
> >> to
> >> >> >> >> disable
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> second level page cache.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way to do this?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> >> >> >> Jamie
> >> >> >> >> >> --
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