or it means that JSF development is a slow process and you need a lot of devs to meet a deadline ;)

Vitaly Tsaplin wrote:
   I am just looking at the number of job offers for JSF :) It's a
lot! That demand means that there are a lot of development in JSF.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
where is the complex JSF app that has many many concurrent users?
 Most of the time the more complex the app gets the less concurrent users it
 will have.
 Because those kind of complex apps are mostly targetted at a specific group
 of people.

 Where are for example Enterprise level apps just open on the internet?

 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Vitaly Tsaplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


wrote:

 >   Hi Johan,
 >
 >   Many thanks for your answer.
 >
 >   A real world enterprise level app is usually about complex user
 > interface and many many concurrent users at one time.
 >
 >   When I told about real world applications I meant mostly a
 > comparison with some other popular frameworks like JSF. It wasn't
 > obvious, sorry :) I mean having a framework which is at least not less
 > efficient then JSF automatically implies that we can do all that stuff
 > which is done with JSF. So in its turn it means that wicket is
 > perfectly suitable for enterprise level apps as well as JSF. I do not
 > mean that JSF is a good choice but it's proven in practice.
 >
 >   Vitaly
 >
 > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > wrote:
 > > we have our own threadtest (see svn) to test scaling
 > >
 > >  What is a real world enterprise level app?
 > >
 > >  Is that about the complexitiy of the user inteface and the application
 > >  itself?
 > >  or is it that it is used by many many concurrent users at one time but
 > the
 > >  app is pretty simple?
 > >
 > >  About design principals, use detachable models everwhere to keep the
 > state
 > >  als low as possible,
 > >  To be Highly responsive doesn't mean that you have to have a memory
 > >  inexpensive app.
 > >
 > >  Wicket apps do use session memory for pages, For 1.3 only 1 page per
 > >  pagemap, so most of the time 1 page per session/user
 > >  And what a page cost in mem is very dependend on the complexity.
 > >
 > >  johan
 > >
 > >
 > >  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Vitaly Tsaplin <
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > >  wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >  >   Hi everyone,
 > >  >
 > >  >   Does anyone try to do any scalability tests with wicket? How is it
 > >  > suitable for real world enterprise level applications? And the most
 > >  > important question: What are the design principals I should follow in
 > >  > order to turn my homemade application into a real, highly responsive
 > >  > and memory inexpensive app? Where can I read about it?
 > >  >
 > >  >   Vitaly
 > >  >
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