For that you just need strict project managers with experience in JSF... ;)

2008/3/17, Thies Edeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> or it means that JSF development is a slow process and you need a lot of
>  devs to meet a deadline ;)
>
>
>  Vitaly Tsaplin wrote:
>  >    I am just looking at the number of job offers for JSF :) It's a
>  > lot! That demand means that there are a lot of development in JSF.
>  >
>  > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  >> where is the complex JSF app that has many many concurrent users?
>  >>  Most of the time the more complex the app gets the less concurrent users 
> it
>  >>  will have.
>  >>  Because those kind of complex apps are mostly targetted at a specific 
> group
>  >>  of people.
>  >>
>  >>  Where are for example Enterprise level apps just open on the internet?
>  >>
>  >>  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Vitaly Tsaplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>  >   Hi Johan,
>  >>  >
>  >>  >   Many thanks for your answer.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >   A real world enterprise level app is usually about complex user
>  >>  > interface and many many concurrent users at one time.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >   When I told about real world applications I meant mostly a
>  >>  > comparison with some other popular frameworks like JSF. It wasn't
>  >>  > obvious, sorry :) I mean having a framework which is at least not less
>  >>  > efficient then JSF automatically implies that we can do all that stuff
>  >>  > which is done with JSF. So in its turn it means that wicket is
>  >>  > perfectly suitable for enterprise level apps as well as JSF. I do not
>  >>  > mean that JSF is a good choice but it's proven in practice.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >   Vitaly
>  >>  >
>  >>  > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >>  > wrote:
>  >>  > > we have our own threadtest (see svn) to test scaling
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  What is a real world enterprise level app?
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  Is that about the complexitiy of the user inteface and the 
> application
>  >>  > >  itself?
>  >>  > >  or is it that it is used by many many concurrent users at one time 
> but
>  >>  > the
>  >>  > >  app is pretty simple?
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  About design principals, use detachable models everwhere to keep the
>  >>  > state
>  >>  > >  als low as possible,
>  >>  > >  To be Highly responsive doesn't mean that you have to have a memory
>  >>  > >  inexpensive app.
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  Wicket apps do use session memory for pages, For 1.3 only 1 page per
>  >>  > >  pagemap, so most of the time 1 page per session/user
>  >>  > >  And what a page cost in mem is very dependend on the complexity.
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  johan
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Vitaly Tsaplin <
>  >>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >>  > >  wrote:
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >  >   Hi everyone,
>  >>  > >  >
>  >>  > >  >   Does anyone try to do any scalability tests with wicket? How is 
> it
>  >>  > >  > suitable for real world enterprise level applications? And the 
> most
>  >>  > >  > important question: What are the design principals I should 
> follow in
>  >>  > >  > order to turn my homemade application into a real, highly 
> responsive
>  >>  > >  > and memory inexpensive app? Where can I read about it?
>  >>  > >  >
>  >>  > >  >   Vitaly
>  >>  > >  >
>  >>  > >  > 
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