Jeremy, Yes, if you believe showing "model" on such a high level architectural diagram meant to depict how the major components hang together, then you should show IModel instead of LDM for sure. And it's true that newcomers need to understand models and can find this concept hard to grasp if they have not seen this sort of pattern before, but you don't need to show everything in the one diagram.
Another comment about the diagram(s) I feel would be most useful (ones I would have benefited from when I first luckily stumbled upon Wicket) is that there should be a clear distinction between static and dynamic features of the framework, for consistency and to avoid confusion for the reader. I think this is a good start and you can also see some of the Wiki entries syl put on the Wiki even before he was working with us, like http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/request-cycle-and-request-cycle-processor.html this one . Regards - Cemal http://jWeekend.com jWeekend Jeremy Thomerson-5 wrote: > > While I agree that you could take out LDM specifically, I really think > that > you should replace it with IModel - I think it is critical to show that > IModel is the abstraction between a component and where it gets it's data. > This is the number one misundertstood thing that I find among those I > teach. > > -- > Jeremy Thomerson > http://www.wickettraining.com > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, jWeekend > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Subbu, >> >> Thank you! >> I have a quick minute now, so I thought you'd appreciate a few crumbs of >> feedback before I can take a better look, hopefully late this evening. >> >> 0 - this is a great start! >> 1 - take out the LDM - this stretches the scope of the diagram beyond >> what >> it needs to show. >> 2 - if the level of abstraction is at a level which includes >> validators/converters etc (possibly form processing is better elaborated >> in >> a child diagram) ... I think we need to mention FormComponent explicitly. >> >> More soon, and I hope this will draw some comments from core devs and >> application developers. >> >> Regards - Cemal >> http://jWeekend.com jWeekend >> >> >> >> subbu_tce wrote: >> > >> > Based on my understanding, i just prepared a diagram. >> > Wicket Contributors.. Please review and let me know your valuable >> > feedback. >> > http://www.nabble.com/file/p22717793/wicket%2Barchitecture.jpg >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Subbu. >> > >> > >> > jWeekend wrote: >> >> >> >> Jeremy, >> >> >> >> It's one of the first things I looked for when I first stumbled upon >> >> Wicket 2 years ago, and it is a common request from many architects >> and >> >> even some project managers evaluating Wicket. >> >> >> >> If the core devs come up with some rough (but correct) sketch they're >> all >> >> agreed on, even if it's just a first iteration, I'll get someone here >> to >> >> create a professional (maybe even glossy) version from that. >> >> >> >> Regards - Cemal >> >> http://jWeekend.com jWeekend >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeremy Thomerson-5 wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Has anyone done a nice Wicket architecture diagram? I know about the >> >>> architecture chapter in WiA, but someone I know is looking for >> something >> >>> more along the lines of: >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.icesoft.com/developer_guides/icefaces/htmlguide/devguide/sys_architecture.html >> >>> http://www.ociweb.com/jnb/jsfArchitecture.jpg >> >>> >> >>> Unfortunately, I'm no artist - so I can't help him much. I was >> hoping >> >>> someone had already done something similar as part of a presentation >> >>> somewhere. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Jeremy Thomerson >> >>> http://www.wickettraining.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-architecture-diagram--tp22683704p22720354.html >> Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-architecture-diagram--tp22683704p22730737.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
