Admittedly - it may not be standard, easy or necessarily intuitive ... but CSS ain't all bad is it? :)
http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns/ -Luther On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Johan Compagner <jcompag...@gmail.com>wrote: > css is really crap (until i really can use box-sizing: border-box > everywhere > that will be a great relieve) > > who ever thought about that content-box should be shot and not through the > head > but shot at various places so that he will die a very painfull and slow > death. > > its completely counter intuitive and i really can understand that microsoft > did implement it first wrong (quirks mode) > because who in there right minds comes up with something like that. > > johan > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 17:11, Jeremy Thomerson > <jer...@wickettraining.com>wrote: > > > I used to hate HTML / CSS and had designers to do the layout. In the > > past couple years, I've had to do all my own layouts from photoshop > > images of what it should look like, and have become fairly proficient > > with HTML / CSS. To the point where I actually sort of like it. Not > > as much as coding the domain, service and lower layers, but I think > > Wicket is the thing that actually made GUI programming fun for me. > > Before that we had used Tapestry, which I hated. > > > > Anyway, I guess it's all familiarity. Someone's first web pages are > > generally ugly too, just like my first Swing apps - just look at > > MySpace - you'll see what I mean! > > > > -- > > Jeremy Thomerson > > http://www.wickettraining.com > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Johan Compagner<jcompag...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Ha this is funny, > > > I hear things like swing is horrible to design, from users that use > > > wicket so html apps. I guess those dont design the webapps themselfs, > > > because if i have to choose i would choose swing or swt over html/css > > > any day.. I really hate css > > > > > > For swing apps just have a good ui builder like windows builder or > > > matisse. Windows builder also supports SWT > > > > > > With grouplayout making nice ui's that always looks good over multiply > > > os'ses or jvms is pretty easy > > > > > > You could try to use JavaFX but i havent experiences with that. But it > > > should be way easier to creaty flashy ui apps.. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/06/2009, Jeremy Thomerson <jer...@wickettraining.com> wrote: > > >> I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope > > >> that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before - a > > >> lot of command line utilities in various languages, and some GUI apps > > >> (perl, java, python, php, even vb (yikes!), c# etc...). > > >> > > >> The question is - what framework do you use for your UI components and > > >> layout on a desktop app? I would like to use Java because I'll be > > >> most efficient with it and it will work for me on linux machines and > > >> others on Windoze, etc.. But when I've built Swing apps in the past, > > >> I have hated having to layout everything in the code and I can never > > >> make anything aesthetically pleasing. So.... > > >> > > >> 1 - do you have any recommendations on a good framework for nice > > >> looking desktop apps? > > >> 2 - any other recommendations for desktop apps in general? > > >> 3 - It should be a lightweight, easy install - and I would prefer to > > >> stay away from using the Eclipse framework for building the app (I use > > >> the IDE but it doesn't need to be something that heavy for the GUI) > > >> 4 - I have even thought about building an app that opens a swing > > >> window that contains an embedded browser and jetty servlet running the > > >> app so that I can use Wicket. Has anyone thought of or done this > > >> before? > > >> > > >> Basically, it's a CRUD application, but containing personal data that > > >> the user should not store on someone else's server. I would use an > > >> embedded database that stores the data with encryption. > > >> > > >> Ideas? > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Jeremy Thomerson > > >> http://www.wickettraining.com > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > > > >
