On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Those designs aren't what make me like CSS - most of them are
> necessarily-filled with hacks to make them work, especially across
> browsers.
>

Sure. My comment was a joking plea to Johan to reconsider CSS :)

> css is really crap

And to your point, it isn't always the CSS, per se, that is the struggle -
but rather, varying browser implementations.

I think those csszengarden pages, browser hacks or not, do help a bit, to
illustrate what is possible with CSS. In general, the *hacks* on those pages
really simulate what CSS is designed to do - not compensate for it. I think
that is a subtle but important point.

>  I still like the separation of markup for presentation and java for code

Amen. And I think Wicket really elucidates those lines.

@Johan
It's not much consoluation but HTML has a twisted history - and CSS was
really an afterthought. HTML wasn't necessarily designed for what it is
being used for today/tomorrow. CSS is really - quite an elegant solution
(conceptually at least) to the general problem we're stuck with.

-Luther

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