Hi alli am working on a prototype which i think will convince you that
conversation is an important concept, it is very onject oriented as wicket
is and has many use cases
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com>wrote:
> you are free to implement this as an open source addition to wicket.
> there is wicketstuff or googlecode or sf.net where you can host it.
>
> wicket is a ui framework and conversational scope management falls
> outside wicket's scope. it is our job to provide the hooks to make
> such things possible, not to provide an implementation.
yes, u r right, wicket can'nt be everything for everyone ,but the question
is how much this hook thing is the responsibility of wicket
do you really think wicket is only ui framework?with no scopes.... so why u
support sessions? conversation is much like sessions, it is just narrowwer
Thanks
Joe
>
> -igor
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Joe Fawzy<joewic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hiyou mean: injecting webbeans conversation component in wicket component
> at
> > construction time
> > this is only what we can achieve with webbeans, as wicket component
> cannot
> > be webbeans components (wicket is unmanaged framework)
> > my idea is about native conversation support, which enable wicket
> component
> > to be the component and the target for injection in a natural wicket way
> > beside, why depending on external project when we have all the
> functionality
> > we need as wicket is stateful and each pagemap is a conversation(long one
> > which may be easily break down to smaller pieces)
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:22 AM, James Carman
> > <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >
> >> There are a few folks working on implementing JSR-299 support for
> Wicket,
> >> which would provide support for conversation-scoped beans. I'm working
> on
> >> one currently and I believe that the jboss folks have one working too.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Joe Fawzy <joewic...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hican this functionality added to the standard wicket?
> >> > actually much of seam popularity came from supporting conversation
> >> > scope...,
> >> > so i think that adding explicit wicket support will have momentum
> >> > i think that having just a store for conversation objects will be a
> good
> >> > begin
> >> > then we may add apis like beginConversation, endConversation
> >> > ,joinConversation,mergeConversation
> >> ,suspendConversation,resumeConversation
> >> > and other concepts like workspace
> >> > what do u think?
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Igor Vaynberg <
> igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > only time will tell
> >> > >
> >> > > -igor
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Fawzy<joewic...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > thanks dearwill wicket continue to support pageMap beyond 1.4 or
> it
> >> is
> >> > > now a
> >> > > > deprecated feature?
> >> > > > thanks
> >> > > > Joe
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Igor Vaynberg <
> >> > igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> if the scope of your conversation is a browser window then its
> the
> >> > best
> >> > > >> choice.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -igor
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Joe Fawzy<joewic...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > Hi dearthanks for the reply and for the code snippet
> >> > > >> > But, do u think that using pageMap is reliable or what....
> >> > > >> > i mean , is using pageMap is a good solution or just a hack,
> work
> >> > > around
> >> > > >> > thanks
> >> > > >> > Joe
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Igor Vaynberg <
> >> > > igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
> >> > > >> >wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> class mysession extends websesison {
> >> > > >> >> private map<string, map<object,object>> coversations;
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> public map<object,object> getconversation(ipagemap pmap) {
> >> > > >> >> return conversations.get(pmap.getid());
> >> > > >> >> }
> >> > > >> >> }
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> -igor
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Joe Fawzy<
> joewic...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > Hi alli need to implement something like a conversation
> scope
> >> in
> >> > > >> wicket
> >> > > >> >> > i know that wicket is stateful by default and i can pass
> object
> >> o
> >> > > from
> >> > > >> >> page
> >> > > >> >> > A -> page B
> >> > > >> >> > But if Object o in page A which -> page B -> page C -> page
> D
> >> ->
> >> > > page
> >> > > >> E
> >> > > >> >> > and i need Object o in page E ,that will be very tedious to
> >> pass
> >> > o
> >> > > all
> >> > > >> >> > throught the way from A ----> ..E
> >> > > >> >> > also if i need to pass a large number of objects between a
> set
> >> of
> >> > > >> pages
> >> > > >> >> > ,this will be a nightmare
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > so How can i implement a Conversation object ala Session and
> >> > store
> >> > > >> these
> >> > > >> >> > objects there
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > i thought of using the IPageMap as a key in this situation
> as
> >> it
> >> > > >> >> represent
> >> > > >> >> > an open browser window or tab ie. conversation, but in a
> >> previous
> >> > > mail
> >> > > >> ,i
> >> > > >> >> > 've been tald that it cannot be extended easily, and i
> cannot
> >> > > provide
> >> > > >> my
> >> > > >> >> own
> >> > > >> >> > factory for one
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > so, any ideas about the conversation scope?
> >> > > >> >> > what do u think about the pageMap ? will it work? is it
> >> reliable?
> >> > > >> >> > can the core team provide some hooks to implement something
> >> like
> >> > > >> >> > IPageMapFactory?
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > thanks
> >> > > >> >> > Joe
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
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