I fully understand the risk of relying on an external and uncontrolled party. The best of breed solution would be to have SO like a Q & A for wicket based on an open source implementation like Bert mentionned.
For the mailing list, I think the advantage of reading the messages on his phone is less important than the gate of a partially closed system that requires a subscription by email. See on http://softwareandsilicon.com/chapter:2 # toc2 "- Freedom of Access and - Weak Group Identity" Markmail: The traffic is constantly increasing from 1999 until late 2009 early 2010 before being reduced significantly. I think the reason is due to the tool a little bit old. Even if the interface allows to search for messages, ergonomics and the quality of responses is not equivalent to what is available on intenet today. My point is not to criticize but to point out that this is negative for the adoption of wicket. Today when I choose a technology for a project, even though I prefer Wicket for its design, I have to "sell" the framework to a team that does not necessarily find it very sexy. Gaetan 2011/10/7 Martijn Dashorst <[email protected]> > The biggest issue with moving to Stack Overflow is that we deliver our > community to an external party which can do anything with the > questions, show stupid ads, etc. Have no mistake: stack exchange is a > commercial venture. So one criterium is to be able to pull the plug on > it whenever it goes sour. While the content of stack overflow is > publicly available, it is not licensed with an Apache friendly license > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/). This issue was the > biggest hurdle SO needs to take to become a viable alternative for the > user list at Apache. > > As for this list not being visible, you can always shop around for > list archive providers. Nabble has a nice forum like interface, Mark > mail provides awesome search tooling. > > Martijn > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Bert <[email protected]> wrote: > > I had a discussion about this with martin dashorst when we meet this > > year at a conference. Apparently, he does like the idea of a SO like > > Q&A site for wicket. But wicket being an Apache project, there are > > certain requirement if i recall our discussion correctly. > > > > One of the problems is the hosting of such a side. The mailing list, > > bugtracker, wicki,... are all hosted and maintained by the apache > > admins. Getting a new tool into there is not easy. One could host a > > solution outside of apache, but this opens questions about long term > > support of the infrastructure, privacy issues and so forth. > > > > There are a few opensource implementations available: > > > > http://gitorious.org/shapado (used by debian at http://ask.debian.net/) > > http://www.osqa.net/ > > > > I do like the SO style (never been a fan of mailing lists), but on the > > other side registering here is not much of a hassle. > > > > My 2 cent > > Bert > > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:25, Josh Kamau <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I like the mail. Atleast i can get the answers even on my not so smart > >> phone. > >> > >> Josh. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Chris Colman > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>> >Source management and bugs are also outdated. The version on github is > >>> much > >>> >better. > >>> > >>> I recently had to get up to speed with github. Not sure what all the > >>> fuss is about. The learning curve was about 20x that of Subversion and > >>> I'm still not confident about how to do things or whether what I'm > doing > >>> is the 'right' thing to be doing. Subversion on the other hand is > really > >>> easy to understand (and most developers already know it) and even > though > >>> it has 'theoretical' shortcomings compared to a distributed VCS like > git > >>> in practice I never saw any difference in performance or usage apart > >>> from git being a lot 'weirder' ;) > >>> > >>> > > >>> >My 2 cents, > >>> > > >>> >Gaetan > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > -- > Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
