Power user guide sounds good to me. Guillaume On 16/11/2007, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Paul Grodt wrote: > > >> Hi, > >> > >> First: I am rather new to XWiki. > >> > >> I am checking XWiki's scripting capabilities. The possibility of > >> using > >> Groovy and Velocity directly within pages is a nice feature. But I > >> was > >> wondering if there was an easier way to integrate dynamic contents > > into > >> wiki pages. Groovy is easier than Java but you still need advanced > >> programming skills to use it. In my opinion staying at the Groovy > > level is > >> not user-friendly when you think that wikis are aimed for a broad > >> audience. Most advanced wikis (TWiki or Deki Wiki for example) give > > simple > >> scripting syntaxes thought for users with no programming skills. > >> > >> Is there anything like that foreseen for XWiki? > >> > >> The same applies to the form ant template system. It seems impossible > > for > >> a normal user to use them. I was surprised to find the how-tos for > > these > >> features in the developer guide, not the user guide. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> William > > > > Hi William. I'm new to XWiki as well :) > > > > I'm no dev, but I would argue that even if velocity or groovy are a > > little awkward, it's better to learn a standardized scripting language > > than have to pick up a new proprietary scripting syntax for every wiki > > project (or any other application that stands to benefit from > > scripting) > > I use. Such proprietary scripting languages are generally severely > > restricted. It's not terribly difficult to do simple things under > > groovy or velocity, and it's often impossible to do complicated things > > under proprietary syntaxes. So I'm personally satisfied with the > > current system. > > > > As far as what goes into which guide, the lines are a bit blurry. The > > website uses "dev" in the sense of developing a customized 2nd > > generation wiki application/system. This means creating your own > > forms > > and classes which you provide to users so they may add/edit content. > > Once a "user" starts editing/creating > > classes/templates/forms/macros/code snippets they graduate to the > > classification of "dev" for a particular XWiki project instance. The > > website designates this "dev" classification as separate from the > > "community" space, which is provided for development of the XWiki > > project at the sourcecode level. > > Spot on! :) > > > (The fact that the sourcecode > > development mailing list is called [EMAIL PROTECTED] makes this nice and > > confusing if I do say so). > > Never thought about this and the confusion it could create... > > Maybe we should change: > > * "User Guide" --> "Basic User Guide" > * "Dev Guide" --> "Advanced User Guide" > > or > > * "User Guide" --> "User Guide" > * "Dev Guide" --> "Advanced User Guide" / "Power User Guide" > > Thanks > -Vincent > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >
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